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Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 13:04:42 -0300
From: Mario Vilas <mvilas@...il.com>
To: Romain Bourdy <achileos@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>,
	Inc leartext <staff@...leartext.com>
Subject: Re: password.incleartext.com

Actually, if they can get the data back (be it because it's stored in
plaintext or in obfuscated plaintext) then it's not secure. Obfuscation
doesn't make it more secure, or any less plaintext.

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Romain Bourdy <achileos@...il.com> wrote:

> Hi Full-Disclosure,
>
> Just my two cents but ... the fact they can give your password back doesn't
> mean it's stored in cleartext, just that it's not hashed but encrypted with
> some way to get the original data back, this doesn't mean at all it's not
> secured, even though in most case it's not.
>
>  -Romain
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:36 PM, <Maksim.Filenko@...b.com> wrote:
>
>> Kinda plaintextoffenders.com?
>>
>> wbr,
>>  - Max
>>
>> full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk wrote on 01.04.2011 02:17:24:
>>
>> > Inc leartext <staff@...leartext.com>
>> > Sent by: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk
>> >
>> > 01.04.2011 13:14
>> >
>> > To
>> >
>> > full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
>> >
>> > cc
>> >
>> > Subject
>> >
>> > [Full-disclosure] password.incleartext.com
>> >
>> > Hi FD,
>> >
>> > Just launched a new website to keep a list of websites storing
>> > passwords in clear text, so far the database is small but feel free
>> > to add some:
>> >     http://password.incleartext.com/
>>
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Inc Leartext_______________________________________________
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>
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