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Message-ID: <145992.1303066502@localhost>
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 14:55:02 -0400
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
To: noloader@...il.com
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Florida Power & Light Company (FPL) Fort
	Sumner Wind turbine Control SCADA was HACKED

On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 12:36:42 EDT, Jeffrey Walton said:

> I was thinking more along the lines of an Office Depot, Sports
> Authority, Verizon Wireless, etc - public businesses which
> automatically open the sliding glass doors for you. I don't expect
> these businesses to claim a 'comparison shopper' was trespassing after
> the fact.

I suspect this case closer to: you walk into an Office Depot, which is
OK, and then pass through a door, which although unlocked, has an
"Eployees Only" sign on it.  You'll have a hard time arguing in court that
www.fpl.com and scada.fpl.com are both "open to the public" by design.

On top of that, you *can* get yourself busted for trespassing in an Office
Depot, if you insist on doing stuff like ignoring the "No Soliciting" sign, paying
an inordinate amount of interest in their security cameras and alarm systems,
and otherwise being present with absolutely no plans to conduct commerce.

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