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Message-ID: <BANLkTinG0Ry5Sz02Ubod6A5jam6wWtJyBA@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 12:05:10 -0700
From: Rob Nelson <nexisentertainment@...il.com>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Florida Power & Light Company (FPL) Fort
 Sumner Wind turbine Control SCADA was HACKED

Why the hell are we arguing statutes? Look at the big picture: He
leaked config files to a system that has access to something in a
/nuclear power plant/.  He's going to jail, it's just a matter of
time.

On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 11:55 AM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 12:36:42 EDT, Jeffrey Walton said:
>
> > I was thinking more along the lines of an Office Depot, Sports
> > Authority, Verizon Wireless, etc - public businesses which
> > automatically open the sliding glass doors for you. I don't expect
> > these businesses to claim a 'comparison shopper' was trespassing after
> > the fact.
>
> I suspect this case closer to: you walk into an Office Depot, which is
> OK, and then pass through a door, which although unlocked, has an
> "Eployees Only" sign on it.  You'll have a hard time arguing in court that
> www.fpl.com and scada.fpl.com are both "open to the public" by design.
>
> On top of that, you *can* get yourself busted for trespassing in an Office
> Depot, if you insist on doing stuff like ignoring the "No Soliciting" sign, paying
> an inordinate amount of interest in their security cameras and alarm systems,
> and otherwise being present with absolutely no plans to conduct commerce.
>
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