Message-ID: <BANLkTikELN5ZQut9-nAsmO8D-3k7YdmBBQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 22:25:04 -0500
From: adam <adam@...sy.net>
To: secn3t@...il.com
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: POC for a simple gmail/possible code
 injection into html wich can be executed in an email,
 i will make the PoC code and explain how here and now...

The reason why no one understood your ground-breaking vulnerability (broken
English aside) is because it's a *feature*. Whether you're being a smartass
right now or not is irrelevant, being that my email generated the exact same
thing as yours did (view source on both of them). The difference is, you're
doing some backspace *trick* whereas I'm entering text, highlighting it and
then clicking the link icon.

Congratulations on wasting everyone's time, they were right to have
abandoned this thread from the start.

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:20 PM, -= Glowing Doom =- <secn3t@...il.com>wrote:

> wow, ONE person finally can do it, after only having top basically SPELL it
> for you.. why did you not do it from the start >????
> Lame team.
>
> Sorry but, have fun.. I wont be cc'd, I will just filter all of the fd :)
> BYE!
>
>
>
>
> On 12 June 2011 13:16, adam <adam@...sy.net> wrote:
>
>> You do realize you're still going to be CC'd, don't you?<http://www.google.com/>
>>
>> And OH MY GOD, my text somehow became a clickable link. Did you guys see
>> that? Did you see my ground breaking exploit? I demand your respect right
>> this second!@
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:13 PM, -= Glowing Doom =- <secn3t@...il.com>wrote:
>>
>>> done.. bye!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12 June 2011 13:12, -= Glowing Doom =- <secn3t@...il.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yet i now stop... enjoy your pathetic,useless luist.. i will now
>>>> unsubscribe :)
>>>> thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12 June 2011 13:09, -= Glowing Doom =- <secn3t@...il.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Here again....
>>>>>
>>>>> I will write a sentence now, and, i will just copy, so it is 'darkened'
>>>>> text , then with NO backspace just leave the text darkened, and goto 'link'
>>>>> , and enter a link.. the text will turn to red.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> (this is the easiest way to reproduce it...)<http://www.haxxor-NOT.bs>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12 June 2011 13:07, -= Glowing Doom =- <secn3t@...il.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I should have said just 'copy, then hit link... because the other one,
>>>>>> is actually VERY hard to explain..but yes... backspace... has a bug with
>>>>>> emails. Is this so hard for 500000 ppl to understand ?
>>>>>> I am really shocked at the brubbish talk i have copped from this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12 June 2011 13:06, -= Glowing Doom =- <secn3t@...il.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do the research... then call yourself a 'team'...please :s
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The PoC, is easy as hell to reproduce. I am shocked a team, cannot do
>>>>>>> it..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> even the easy one wich is just copy/backspace, and, hit link and
>>>>>>> enter a link!
>>>>>>> simple ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12 June 2011 12:52, Haxxor Security <h@...r.se> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As I (painfully tried to) understand it, secn3t can fool his own
>>>>>>>> email client to create malformed links by pressing backspace...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2011/6/12 adam <adam@...sy.net>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> At the end of the day, you're going to be treated like a child as
>>>>>>>>> long as you continue to type like one.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The entertaining part for me is how each of your replies
>>>>>>>>> contradicts a previous one. According to you, this *vulnerability*
>>>>>>>>>  *has existed for years*. And also according to you, the reason
>>>>>>>>> why the original email was filled with spelling errors is because it
>>>>>>>>> *was rushed out due to you being "awake" at 6AM.* Do you see the
>>>>>>>>> inconsistency between those two statements? Your response to Christian also
>>>>>>>>> indicated that you* **didn't just discover this*.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> IF this is an old vulnerability and IF you've known about it for an
>>>>>>>>> extended period of time - WHY did you have to post it right when you did?
>>>>>>>>> It's old, you've known about it for a while, it's existed for years, yet it
>>>>>>>>> couldn't wait until later in the day? It couldn't wait until you had time to
>>>>>>>>> skim over the email and correct any spelling/grammar mistakes? It absolutely
>>>>>>>>> had to be posted right then and there?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 9:14 PM, -= Glowing Doom =- <
>>>>>>>>> secn3t@...il.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thats why i the people who do understand it, can see that it is
>>>>>>>>>> there... yes, VERY hard to expalin, id LOVE to see you try.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 12 June 2011 12:11, adam <adam@...sy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Furthermore, pretending that we [the readers] are somehow at
>>>>>>>>>>> fault here (for not understanding) isn't going to get you very far. The only
>>>>>>>>>>> thing consistent in this entire thread is that people *kind of* want
>>>>>>>>>>> to know what you're talking about, but aren't able to due to the poor
>>>>>>>>>>> writing style and spelling/grammar errors.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It should be noted that no one is being anal about typos, I fully
>>>>>>>>>>> understand that people make mistakes. The difference is that it appears you
>>>>>>>>>>> didn't even so much as proof read the original email.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 9:04 PM, phocean <0x90@...cean.net>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi n3td3v... oops!... secn3t (that is close),
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry but I don't understand anything to this thread.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Each of your emails is such a pain to read, that I stop at the
>>>>>>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>>>>>>> sentence.
>>>>>>>>>>>> We are all busy and don't want to take 20 min to decipher your
>>>>>>>>>>>> writing
>>>>>>>>>>>> with the risk that it is not deserving it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please clarify and give consistent technical facts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 12/06/2011 03:33, -= Glowing Doom =- a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>>> > This is NOT coded..  the PoC i am explaining, is possible with
>>>>>>>>>>>> simply
>>>>>>>>>>>> > copyying text,then using a sequence of keys, to make the
>>>>>>>>>>>> actual
>>>>>>>>>>>> > sentence/s, appear.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > This code is not what shows up when it is dissected.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > It shows up with many x41 all over the email when it is done
>>>>>>>>>>>> properly .
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Regards.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > On 12 June 2011 11:29, Christian Sciberras <uuf6429@...il.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> > <mailto:uuf6429@...il.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >     For those lazy enough to search:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/The_CSRSS_Backspace_Bug_still_works_in_windows_2003_sp1
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >     Excerpt:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >     Basicaly just compile this and you will get a 100%
>>>>>>>>>>>> processor usage
>>>>>>>>>>>> >     by the compiled exploit and Csrss.exe
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >     #include <stdio.h>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >     int main(void)
>>>>>>>>>>>> >     {
>>>>>>>>>>>> >     while(1)
>>>>>>>>>>>> >     printf("\t\t\b\b\b\b\b\b");
>>>>>>>>>>>> >     return 0;
>>>>>>>>>>>> >     }
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >     How this helps in sending spam is beyond me.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >     On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 3:18 AM, Jeffrey Walton <
>>>>>>>>>>>> noloader@...il.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> >     <mailto:noloader@...il.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >         On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 9:06 PM, -= Glowing Doom =-
>>>>>>>>>>>> >         <secn3t@...il.com <mailto:secn3t@...il.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >         > It is now, over 1yr old atleast and exists in
>>>>>>>>>>>> riched20.dll.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >         > This PoC info is over for me also.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >         Microsoft had problems with a backspace in the past.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Search for
>>>>>>>>>>>> >         "CSRSS
>>>>>>>>>>>> >         Backspace Bug".
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >         > [SNIP
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >         Jeff
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> phocean
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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