full-disclosure - Re: Absolute Sownage (A concise history of recent Sony hacks)

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Message-ID: <20110613065701.GB2227@sivokote.iziade.m$>
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 09:57:01 +0300
From: Georgi Guninski <guninski@...inski.com>
To: Bruce Ediger <bediger@...atigery.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Absolute Sownage (A concise history of recent
 Sony hacks)

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 11:06:33AM -0600, Bruce Ediger wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Jun 2011, Nick FitzGerald wrote:
> 
> > Nowadays the big, noisy, obvious, "own the net" type "outbreak" of
> > yesteryear is not the model of choice for your typical cyber-thug (you
> > know, those running virtually all malware these days)..
> >
> > In fact, _avoiding_ exactly that is pretty much top of their list of
> > desiderata.
> 
> How do we know this?
> 
> I mean, it seems kind of circular to say "We haven't seen another Code
> Red II for a while, so the malware writers are doing other things."  Of
> course they are off doing other things: we haven't seen another Code Red
> II in years.
> 
> What other evidence exists?
>

Some evidence:

Conficker was long ago in the past 2008.

i heard script kiddie mentality changed so much they prefer to brag about XSS instead of pwning the interwebs :)

stuxnet didn't target the interwebs either - this might mean Valdis'
constant is more like 95.999%.

strongly suspect all the 404 for cgis in my httpd logs are requested by
hand :)

-- 
joro

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