Message-ID: <CALCvwp4a=u=S_22rou4pn9Vf3MnBNJzLLbx2Mg3ipRJghwydww@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 10:18:24 +1100
From: GloW - XD <doomxd@...il.com>
To: Laurelai <laurelai@...echan.org>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: VPN providers and any providers in general...

Hey Jeff,
I am glad there are people here who understand the need for real privacy
in the modern age.

The US Government has proven *repeatedly* that the more power it has the
less trustworthy it is especially when it comes to privacy concerns.

This is mainly aimed at Jeffs posting, I think i agree 100%.
Thats what this topic is about, hence why, i want answers still, on many
levels.
cheers for your interest and welcome to a decent discussion about privacy,
albeit, those who are trying to ruin things.. it is an area people are
always scared to tackle, yet affects the list more than anyone.
cheers
xd
PS: sorry to cc u laurelai but since we are one and same, well... rofl.
no seriously, i did not have jeffs email in my emailer, dont know why.
tsozz.


Thankyou,

On 4 October 2011 08:48, Laurelai <laurelai@...echan.org> wrote:

> On 10/3/2011 12:37 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Laurelai<laurelai@...echan.org>  wrote:
> >> On 10/3/2011 12:16 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:35 PM, Laurelai<laurelai@...echan.org>
>  wrote:
> >>
> >> On 10/3/2011 10:42 AM, Antony widmal wrote:
> >>
> >> Using an external VPN provider to cover your trace clearly shows your
> >> incompetency and your idiot assumption.
> >> Trying to blame the VPN provider rather than accepting your mistake
> >> and learning from it clearly show your 3 years old mentality.
> >>
> >> Also, could you please stop posting as GLOW Xd as well ?
> >> We do not need your schizophrenic script kiddie "lolololol", "xD",
> >> hugs,  spamming on this mailing list.
> >>
> >> You being on this mailing list is once again not the best idea.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Antony
> >>
> >> Actually XD and me are two different people. Second issues of privacy
> >> are always relevant, not understanding that law abiding individuals
> >> should always be concerned about companies that hand over personal info
> >> at the request of an authority figure are the ones with three year old
> >> mentalities.
> >>
> >> maybe they are law abiding companies? :)
> >> this whole fuss wouldn't have happened, if everybody could just stay a
> >> law abiding citizen.
> >>
> >> The idea that "if you've done nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry
> >> about" assumes that the government is full of good people that would not
> >> abuse their power, ever. Even if this were true now, we cannot be sure
> it'll
> >> be true in the future and its damn sure not true now.
> > Definetly not true in the past. Confer: Martin Luther King was
> > subjected to tens of thousands of illegal wire taps by the FBI because
> > he (and a lot of other people) felt black folks should get the same
> > rights as white folks.
> >
> > The guy who did it was honored in death, and the bureau he helped
> > shape actually carries "fidelity" and "integrity" in their motto.
> > Twisted but true.
> >
> > Jeff
> I am glad there are people here who understand the need for real privacy
> in the modern age.
>
> The US Government has proven *repeatedly* that the more power it has the
> less trustworthy it is especially when it comes to privacy concerns.
>
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