full-disclosure - Re: VPN providers and any providers in general...

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Message-ID: <CAH-PCH7vEBF-1cb_=ZNprePHz7+=5=Vafsp1MH6YGi_QX1nacQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 09:06:50 +0200
From: Ferenc Kovacs <tyra3l@...il.com>
To: secn3t@...il.com
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: VPN providers and any providers in general...

http://vpn.hidemyass.com/vpncontrol/legal.html

"VPN Data

What we store: Time stamp and IP address when you connect and
disconnect to our service."

...

"Legalities

Anonymity services such as ours do not exist to hide people from
illegal activity. We will cooperate with law enforcement agencies if
it has become evident that your account has been used for illegal
activities."

people should read the TOC, AUP and privacy policy especially if they
are planning to use that service for illegal activities.

As I mentioned before it is hard to expect that a VPN provider will
risk his company for your $11.52/month, and maybe they would try it
for some lesser case, but what Lulsec did was grant, so I'm not
surprised that they bent.

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:09 AM, xD 0x41 <secn3t@...il.com> wrote:
> maybe they are law abiding companies? :)
>
> Who were advertising themselves, and acting like they would NEVER do the
> dirty by handing over any payment records etc... wich is half the reason i
> believe the people use theose ones, advertising to protect you.. not to give
> your infos up, for really, no reason. as they did.
> Law abiding or not, then they should be advertising as a law abiding
> company, and not acting like some hackers-oparadise vpn service.
> xd
>
>
> On 4 October 2011 06:16, Ferenc Kovacs <tyra3l@...il.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:35 PM, Laurelai <laurelai@...echan.org> wrote:
>> > On 10/3/2011 10:42 AM, Antony widmal wrote:
>> >> Using an external VPN provider to cover your trace clearly shows your
>> >> incompetency and your idiot assumption.
>> >> Trying to blame the VPN provider rather than accepting your mistake
>> >> and learning from it clearly show your 3 years old mentality.
>> >>
>> >> Also, could you please stop posting as GLOW Xd as well ?
>> >> We do not need your schizophrenic script kiddie "lolololol", "xD",
>> >> hugs,  spamming on this mailing list.
>> >>
>> >> You being on this mailing list is once again not the best idea.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Antony
>> > Actually XD and me are two different people. Second issues of privacy
>> > are always relevant, not understanding that law abiding individuals
>> > should always be concerned about companies that hand over personal info
>> > at the request of an authority figure are the ones with three year old
>> > mentalities.
>>
>> maybe they are law abiding companies? :)
>> this whole fuss wouldn't have happened, if everybody could just stay a
>> law abiding citizen.
>>
>> --
>> Ferenc Kovács
>> @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu
>>
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Ferenc Kovács
@Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu

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