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Message-ID: <CAH8yC8=1PMV3__suCdXX5q=iQJj3oX=b5ghWvOJRqhU_tE4oLw@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 03:15:02 -0400
From: Jeffrey Walton <noloader@...il.com>
To: Ferenc Kovacs <tyra3l@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: VPN providers and any providers in general...

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 3:06 AM, Ferenc Kovacs <tyra3l@...il.com> wrote:
> http://vpn.hidemyass.com/vpncontrol/legal.html
>
> "VPN Data
>
> What we store: Time stamp and IP address when you connect and
> disconnect to our service."
>
> ...
>
> "Legalities
>
> Anonymity services such as ours do not exist to hide people from
> illegal activity. We will cooperate with law enforcement agencies if
> it has become evident that your account has been used for illegal
> activities."
>
> people should read the TOC, AUP and privacy policy especially if they
> are planning to use that service for illegal activities.
>
> As I mentioned before it is hard to expect that a VPN provider will
> risk his company for your $11.52/month, and maybe they would try it
> for some lesser case, but what Lulsec did was grant, so I'm not
> surprised that they bent.

"Alleged"

> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:09 AM, xD 0x41 <secn3t@...il.com> wrote:
>> maybe they are law abiding companies? :)
>>
>> Who were advertising themselves, and acting like they would NEVER do the
>> dirty by handing over any payment records etc... wich is half the reason i
>> believe the people use theose ones, advertising to protect you.. not to give
>> your infos up, for really, no reason. as they did.
>> Law abiding or not, then they should be advertising as a law abiding
>> company, and not acting like some hackers-oparadise vpn service.
>> xd
>>
>>
>> On 4 October 2011 06:16, Ferenc Kovacs <tyra3l@...il.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:35 PM, Laurelai <laurelai@...echan.org> wrote:
>>> > On 10/3/2011 10:42 AM, Antony widmal wrote:
>>> >> Using an external VPN provider to cover your trace clearly shows your
>>> >> incompetency and your idiot assumption.
>>> >> Trying to blame the VPN provider rather than accepting your mistake
>>> >> and learning from it clearly show your 3 years old mentality.
>>> >>
>>> >> Also, could you please stop posting as GLOW Xd as well ?
>>> >> We do not need your schizophrenic script kiddie "lolololol", "xD",
>>> >> hugs,  spamming on this mailing list.
>>> >>
>>> >> You being on this mailing list is once again not the best idea.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks,
>>> >> Antony
>>> > Actually XD and me are two different people. Second issues of privacy
>>> > are always relevant, not understanding that law abiding individuals
>>> > should always be concerned about companies that hand over personal info
>>> > at the request of an authority figure are the ones with three year old
>>> > mentalities.
>>>
>>> maybe they are law abiding companies? :)
>>> this whole fuss wouldn't have happened, if everybody could just stay a
>>> law abiding citizen.

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