full-disclosure - Re: Search and Seizure of Email

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Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 18:17:04 +0200
From: Christian Sciberras <uuf6429@...il.com>
To: Laurelai <laurelai@...echan.org>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Search and Seizure of Email

I think you meant "there is no guarantee" that email is encrypted.

You don't know if a provider is actually encrypting your mail unless you're
doing this yourself.

That's why there is no push.





On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Laurelai <laurelai@...echan.org> wrote:

>  On 10/12/2011 10:33 AM, Christian Sciberras wrote:
>
> Well said!
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Daniel Sichel <daniels@...derosatel.com>wrote:
>
>> >In fact, law enforcement officials don?t even need a search warrant to
>> >access private emails.
>>
>> In point of fact, nobody does, although acquiring this access is clearly
>> easier for law enforcement.
>> One of the burdens that the freedom the Internet brings, is the freedom.
>> Your email is out there, typically unencrypted, available to anyone who
>> can snatch the packets off the wire,
>> Any ISP employee with appropriate read rights on a mail server.
>>
>> Take responsibility for your own email. Encrypt it if you must, but for
>> heaven sakes, own the fact that it is publicly visible.
>>
>> If we do not take responsibility for our own email and whine about
>> others reading it,  than there will HAVE to be regulations by government
>> to protect us.
>> That's what government does.  That's what it is SUPPOSED to do.  So
>> before we invite Godzilla to protect our email, how about we just man up
>> and take responsibility ourselves?
>>
>> But that's just the idea of a bunch of dead white guys like Edmund
>> Burke, John Adams and James Madison, and what do they know?
>>
>>
>> Dan Sichel
>>
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>  Well there is no push to make snail-mail encrypted and lets face it most
> peoples mailboxes don't have any sort of locking mechanisms and is available
> to anyone with two hands and the malicious intent to steal someones mail
> however the US Gov needs a warrant to intercept your physical mail, why does
> it being online somehow make it different? Especially considering the US
> Postal service keeps threatening to shut down, and this is due to the
> increased popularity of *email*. Why this should be troubling is that they
> consider email somehow different than physical mail when it comes to privacy
> rights for no really good reason, and considering that one of the grievances
> we had with England in the time of the revolutionary war was the government
> intercepting mail for arbitrary reasons. This should make every American
> citizen's hair stand on end.
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