full-disclosure - Re: [OT] the nigger said: "American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules"

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Message-ID: <CAH8yC8m1quMemjTuRKm3AyCBWWRGyorBQXcsYg9h3vDtpX7yew@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 03:40:15 -0400
From: Jeffrey Walton <noloader@...il.com>
To: Christian Sciberras <uuf6429@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: [OT] the nigger said: "American people
 understand that not everybody's been following the rules"

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:51 AM, Christian Sciberras <uuf6429@...il.com> wrote:
> Darren's and indeed many other people's lame excuse is that they're too
> humble to be greedy. As if!
Its not about greed - pursuit of wealth is fine. You just can't harm
others while doing it. (Well, apparently you can in the US).

One of the funniest things I ever read regarding Bin Laden's little
war was a boycott of the US dollar to reduce reliance [on the dollar]
and to harm the US economy [1].

Thought experiment: terrorist wanted to ruin the US economy. US
Financial institutions threw the US (and world) economy into a
recession (again). The US financial institutions responsible must be
terrorist organizations.

Thank {insert higher being here} that Bin Laden did not make a PAC
contribution on 9/10.

Jeff

[1] http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/30/world/middleeast/30binladen.html


> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Jeffrey Walton <noloader@...il.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Darren Martyn
>> <d.martyn.fulldisclosure@...il.com> wrote:
>> > Chris - Empathy, guilt, and morals. Guilt being a major factor. The
>> > possibility was always there to make millions via evil means, but morals
>> > and
>> > knowing it would be hard to live with.
>> >
>> > The problem is not getting lots of money. That is the easy part. The
>> > issue
>> > is with living with yourself afterward.
>> How about illegal? Check out the Hobbs Act [1]. I'm not making this
>> crap up - the US has laws on the books for negatively affecting
>> commerce (which the crash did), and using fear to peddle their warez
>> (how financial institutions market their instruments). There's
>> probably provisions in the PATRIOT Act, too.
>>
>> The last tine I checked (about a year ago), the SEC had opened fewer
>> than 100 civil investigations. No criminal investigations, despite the
>> fact that some of the financial institutions created spurious ratings
>> companies just to rate their instruments 'good'.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> [1]
>> http://www.justice.gov/usao/eousa/foia_reading_room/usam/title9/131mcrm.htm
>>
>> [SNIP]

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