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Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:44:37 +0200
From: Christian Sciberras <uuf6429@...il.com>
To: noloader@...il.com
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: [OT] the nigger said: "American people
understand that not everybody's been following the rules"
Regarding who's doing the most damage to US economy, I'll just say I won't
comment.
I take issue with the 1%/99% idea; ie, the excuse that some people deserve
more just because they are allowed to lie - even if it makes them
hypocrites.
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Jeffrey Walton <noloader@...il.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:51 AM, Christian Sciberras <uuf6429@...il.com>
> wrote:
> > Darren's and indeed many other people's lame excuse is that they're too
> > humble to be greedy. As if!
> Its not about greed - pursuit of wealth is fine. You just can't harm
> others while doing it. (Well, apparently you can in the US).
>
> One of the funniest things I ever read regarding Bin Laden's little
> war was a boycott of the US dollar to reduce reliance [on the dollar]
> and to harm the US economy [1].
>
> Thought experiment: terrorist wanted to ruin the US economy. US
> Financial institutions threw the US (and world) economy into a
> recession (again). The US financial institutions responsible must be
> terrorist organizations.
>
> Thank {insert higher being here} that Bin Laden did not make a PAC
> contribution on 9/10.
>
> Jeff
>
> [1] http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/30/world/middleeast/30binladen.html
>
>
> > On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Jeffrey Walton <noloader@...il.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Darren Martyn
> >> <d.martyn.fulldisclosure@...il.com> wrote:
> >> > Chris - Empathy, guilt, and morals. Guilt being a major factor. The
> >> > possibility was always there to make millions via evil means, but
> morals
> >> > and
> >> > knowing it would be hard to live with.
> >> >
> >> > The problem is not getting lots of money. That is the easy part. The
> >> > issue
> >> > is with living with yourself afterward.
> >> How about illegal? Check out the Hobbs Act [1]. I'm not making this
> >> crap up - the US has laws on the books for negatively affecting
> >> commerce (which the crash did), and using fear to peddle their warez
> >> (how financial institutions market their instruments). There's
> >> probably provisions in the PATRIOT Act, too.
> >>
> >> The last tine I checked (about a year ago), the SEC had opened fewer
> >> than 100 civil investigations. No criminal investigations, despite the
> >> fact that some of the financial institutions created spurious ratings
> >> companies just to rate their instruments 'good'.
> >>
> >> Jeff
> >>
> >> [1]
> >>
> http://www.justice.gov/usao/eousa/foia_reading_room/usam/title9/131mcrm.htm
> >>
> >> [SNIP]
>
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