full-disclosure - Re: Search and Seizure of Email

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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 09:38:53 +0900
From: 夜神　岩男 <supergiantpotato@...oo.co.jp>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Search and Seizure of Email

Nicely put.

Too bad folks in the other OT thread on this list (and around the world) 
don't feel the same way about economics -- and other things, like 
healthcare, for that matter...

Its all about manning up and making yourself secure in whatever way that 
means to you, no matter how futile everything ultimately is. As we exist 
within a thin, delecate biosphere wrapped about a rocky conglomerate 
hurtling through cold, uncaring space and have only arrived in our 
current state after millions of years of lethal evolutionary struggle it 
is shallow to think that we have somehow arrived at a special point in 
time and struggles no longer apply -- and that now all that must be done 
is write a few laws and freedom, liberty, information privacy, jobs and 
free bags of money will come pouring in.

Nobody cares about your problems, your health, your liberty, your 
freedoms, your life or your privacy but you. And nobody can be compelled 
to be concerned with such things, they themselves being in the same 
situation. Laws are a fancy way of attempting to coerce the government 
monopoly on violence to enforce a sense of caring within society, and 
this always fails (and is usually, in the ultimate irony, centered on 
money and materials, the very things that "caring" isn't made of in the 
first place).

This applies whether we're talking about "my online privacy" as if it 
were a right, "my healthcare" as if it were a right, or even child 
education or employment.

On 10/13/2011 12:16 AM, Daniel Sichel wrote:
>> In fact, law enforcement officials don?t even need a search warrant to
>> access private emails.
>
> In point of fact, nobody does, although acquiring this access is clearly
> easier for law enforcement.
> One of the burdens that the freedom the Internet brings, is the freedom.
> Your email is out there, typically unencrypted, available to anyone who
> can snatch the packets off the wire,
> Any ISP employee with appropriate read rights on a mail server.
>
> Take responsibility for your own email. Encrypt it if you must, but for
> heaven sakes, own the fact that it is publicly visible.
>
> If we do not take responsibility for our own email and whine about
> others reading it,  than there will HAVE to be regulations by government
> to protect us.
> That's what government does.  That's what it is SUPPOSED to do.  So
> before we invite Godzilla to protect our email, how about we just man up
> and take responsibility ourselves?
>
> But that's just the idea of a bunch of dead white guys like Edmund
> Burke, John Adams and James Madison, and what do they know?
>
>
> Dan Sichel
>
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