Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:44:44 -0700
From: Mike Hale <eyeronic.design@...il.com>
To: noloader@...il.com
Cc: "full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk" <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [OT] Obama said: "American people understand
 that not everybody's been following the rules"

Seriously!  Think about the injustice of having American helicopters
engage armed individuals shadowing American soldiers.

The inhumanity is heart breaking.

Go troll somewhere else.

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Jeffrey Walton <noloader@...il.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 12:22 AM, Jeffrey Walton <noloader@...il.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:59 PM, Ivan . <ivanhec@...il.com> wrote:
>>> don't feed the trolls
>>>
>>> http://whatreallyhappened.com/
>> Don't forget http://www.collateralmurder.com/.
>>
>> Its appalling the US pilots of the helicopter make a joke and laugh
>> when they shoot the children ("they shouldn't have brought their kids
>> to work", IIRC).
> My bad. The Apache pilot joked, "It's their fault for bringing their
> kids into a battle" (at 15:28), with 'their' meaning the civilians and
> Reuters employees killed by the US military in an unprovoked attack.
>
> Jeff
>
>>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Laurelai <laurelai@...echan.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 10/13/2011 7:11 PM, Christian Sciberras wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > So if they cause damage for profit that makes it ok?
>>>> No. But it's certainly better than doing damage without profit. Making
>>>> profit means that at the end of the day, the money's going to go somewhere
>>>> further in the chain.
>>>> Flattening a tower, for instance, or attacking the local bank that refused
>>>> to give you a loan because of the time you spent in a cell, isn't as
>>>> productive.
>>>> Neither is it making a company loose clients/profit just because they
>>>> decided they don't want you to use their services (as if you did have a
>>>> right in the first place...).
>>>>
>>>> So by your logic the civil disobedience that helped sparked the
>>>> revolutionary war is worse than if someone had done the same acts just to
>>>> drive up tea prices? Again I also remind you the trickle down theory doesn't
>>>> work
>>>>
>>>> > And yes I acknowledge the American public has a measure of
>>>> > responsibility in the situation too, human beings are by nature imperfect,
>>>> > but the largest share of responsibility lies with the names listed below.
>>>> The largest share? I can see Ex-president Bush trying to sell you a bottle
>>>> of beer for $10 dollars ($7 profit). Wait, I can't.
>>>>
>>>> But we did see him increase deregulation and allow this to happen, we also
>>>> saw him provoke a war with another country based on a known lie for the sole
>>>> purpose of gaining resources and more control in the middle east. We saw him
>>>> legalize torture and saw him strip away a good chunk of our civil liberties
>>>> so the anti terror industry could make a buck. But like you said its ok
>>>> since someone is making money off of it. Who needs civil liberties anyways
>>>> right?
>>>>
>>>> > That sort of thing has happened to me and I paid back every dime of it,
>>>> > most people are decent human beings and would do the same.
>>>> Most people? I could have sworn 90% of the people in the NYC subway would
>>>> thank $deity if you suddenly dropped dead so they could get things off you.
>>>> Call me cynical, but I wouldn't trust anyone else in such cases, other
>>>> than myself.
>>>>
>>>> Frankly 90% of people on this list would just thank $deity i suddenly
>>>> dropped dead regardless of how much stuff i had :)
>>>>
>>>> Regarding that list of yours, great! Now we just need a little more
>>>> effort. For each of those persons, please enlighten us as to what they did
>>>> legally wrong.
>>>> Of course, the people that landed in jail shouldn't be counted. The "99%
>>>> protest" is a modern one committed to change, it just can't right wrongs by
>>>> pointing at jailed people.
>>>>
>>>> [SNIP]
>>
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