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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:19:43 +1100
From: "Ivan ." <ivanhec@...il.com>
To: "full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk" <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Possible German Governmental Backdoor found
("R2D2")
interesting
*DigiTask Remote Forensic Spyware *
http://cryptome.org/0005/michaelthomas.pdf
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:38 AM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu> wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:44:32 PDT, Andrew Wallace said:
> > No, they started moderating the list January 2009.
> >
> > ---
> >
> >
> > Andrew Wallace
> >
> > Independent consultant
> >
> > www.n3td3v.org.uk
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Byron Sonne <byron.sonne@...il.com>
> > To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
> > Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 10:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Possible German Governmental Backdoor
> found ("R2D2")
> >
> > I thought this was an unmoderated list? It appears my submission has
> > been held back.
>
> To clarify: the list itself is (to the best of my knowledge), in fact
> *not*
> moderated, which involves somebody actually looking at all postings and
> doing a yes/
> no check on the enclosed content.
>
> That is *different* from *certain user addresses* being set to permanent
> moderation status.
>
> There's unfortunately some people that are still fuzzy on the difference,
> and
> some that insist on conflating the two.
>
> https://www.gnu.org/s/mailman/mailman-admin/node22.html
>
> tl;dr: No, the list isn't moderated, Andrew is (and other individuals may
> or
> may not be at any given time).
>
> Byron: Having said that, I have no idea what delayed your original posting
> to
> the list. Your follow-up appears to have cleared the list in about 6
> seconds
> from arrival to queued for delivery, so was almost certainly unmoderated.
>
>
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