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Message-ID: <CALo60Kkd1bsstNp72i=QNP7dC=F5WaLVi16nNx_m_yFX5+D8Xw@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:53:00 -0800
From: Antony widmal <antony.widmal@...il.com>
To: Dan Ballance <tzewang.dorje@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Microsoft Windows vulnerability in TCP/IP
 Could Allow Remote Code Execution (2588516)

Dear Dan,

Impacket was at first a Pysmb copy/update from Core Security in order to
play with RPC. (look at the source)
They've done some work on pysmb library in order to implement DCE/RPC
functionality in this dinosaurus lib.
Saying that we should use Impacket in order to craft *raw* UDP packet
is definitively the dumbest thing I've heard today. Seriously. Anyone can
confirm that ? Mario ? Carlos ? ....

Anyways, This guy doesn't understand shit, talks a lot about shit he
doesn't know about, why would you even spend time reading his shit ?

This vulnerability is about sending a *huge fucking* stream of UDP packets
on a closed port in order to trigger a int overflow via a ref count.
Most of the people here didn't even understand what we are talking
about/dealing with.

Anyways, it's probably time for you to unsubscribe since you don't follow
and S-K's like secn3t@...il.com are trying to act like they know.

Yeah right, a UDP int overflow triggered via a refcount UDP overflow that
you can trigger with 1 single TCP (with the right ACK) packet is the way to
go.

This mailing list is getting gay, seriously.

Cheers,
Antony.





On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Dan Ballance <tzewang.dorje@...il.com>wrote:

> Okay, now I'm confused! From
> http://oss.coresecurity.com/projects/impacket.html
>
> "Impacket is a collection of Python classes focused on providing access to
> network packets. Impacket allows Python developers to craft and decode
> network packets in simple and consistent manner. It includes support for
> low-level protocols such as IP, UDP and TCP, as well as higher-level
> protocols such as NMB and SMB. Impacket is highly effective when used in
> conjunction with a packet capture utility or package such as Pcapy<http://oss.coresecurity.com/projects/pcapy.html>.
> Packets can be constructed from scratch, as well as parsed from raw data.
> Furthermore, the object oriented API makes it simple to work with deep
> protocol hierarchies."
>
> Thanks for your input Antony. Can you explain why impacket has nothing to
> do with crafting UDP packets?
>
> Fascinating thread this. Thanks to all!!
>
> dan :)
>
>  On 11 November 2011 22:42, Antony widmal <antony.widmal@...il.com> wrote:
>
>> You are definitely a lamer secn3t.
>> Also for you little brain, impacket has nothing to do with crafting UDP
>> packets..
>>
>> Thanks for proving this again and again.
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 2:36 PM, xD 0x41 <secn3t@...il.com> wrote:
>>
>>> well look at that :P
>>> not same author but , nice coding predelka! good one, i will add you
>>> to crazycoders.com coderslist... i guess there is a few codes you have
>>> now done wich might be useful... cheers.
>>> xd
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12 November 2011 05:43, Ryan Dewhurst <ryandewhurst@...il.com> wrote:
>>> > An attempt at a possible MS11-083 DoS/PoC exploit, by @hackerfantastic:
>>> >
>>> > http://pastebin.com/fjZ1k0fi
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Thor (Hammer of God)
>>> > <thor@...merofgod.com> wrote:
>>> >> Yeah, I gotta say, I’m going to use it at some point ;)
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk
>>> >> [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of
>>> Mario Vilas
>>> >> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 9:02 AM
>>> >> To: Ryan Dewhurst
>>> >>
>>> >> Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
>>> >> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Microsoft Windows vulnerability in
>>> TCP/IP
>>> >> Could Allow Remote Code Execution (2588516)
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> I liked the "heavy breather in the perv closet" bit.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Ryan Dewhurst <
>>> ryandewhurst@...il.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I think Jon just said what everyone else was thinking, he said what I
>>> >> was thinking at least.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Jon Kertz <jon.kertz@...il.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 2:59 PM, xD 0x41 <secn3t@...il.com> wrote:
>>> >>>> About the PPS, i think thats a very bad summary of the exploit,
>>> 49days
>>> >>>> to send a packet, my butt.
>>> >>>> There is many people assuming wrong things, when it can be done with
>>> >>>> seconds, syscanner would scan a -b class in minutes, remember it
>>> only
>>> >>>> has to find the vulns, gather, then it would break scan, and trigger
>>> >>>> vuln... so in real world botnet, yes then, with tcpip patchers, like
>>> >>>> somany ppl i know myself, even use (tcpipz)patcher ) , wich rocks...
>>> >>>> and it is ONLY one wich actually works, when you maybe modify the
>>> src
>>> >>>> so the sys file, is dropped from within a .cpp file, well thats up
>>> to
>>> >>>> you but thats better way to make it work, this will open
>>> >>>> sockets/threads, as i could, easily proove with one exe, but, the
>>> goal
>>> >>>> is, to trigger the vuln then exploit it, less than 49days :P , so ,
>>> >>>> iguess if this exploit, in real form, gathered 2 million hosts over
>>> 3
>>> >>>> nights.. i guessing that the exploit, could possibly be triggered
>>> with
>>> >>>> ONE properly setup packet.. people forget that, a packet is one
>>> thing,
>>> >>>> and a crafted UDP packet, is quite another..
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I'd really like to see you actually explain this bug with code.
>>> Either
>>> >>> with a poc or with the disassembly. You seem to act like you know
>>> >>> what's going on, but so far your description has been off base (from
>>> >>> what I can make of your writing).
>>> >>>
>>> >>> No one cares about paragraphs of speculation and bragging, code or
>>> you
>>> >>> are just another heavy breather in the perv closet of FD.
>>> >>>
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