full-disclosure - Re: Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default

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Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 14:15:17 +0000
From: james@...o-internet.org.uk
To: "Johan Nestaas" <johannestaas@...il.com>,
	full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk, "Olivier" <feuille@...ibox.fr>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default

I'll second that; the isp I work at has a sizeable ubuntu customer base and these are customers who have made an informed decision.

Now; let's consider ubuntu's inherited security from debian such as configuring a 'mortal account' (admittedly can be ignored in the preseed) and then the lack of perms on su; must use sudo.

This is a distro that is newbie friendly but is not designed specifically for them.

Unfortunately, though, you make a distro with simplified tasks (printer installation a fantastic example) and people, especially long term linuxers- though I ought to be included I guess, remember back all too easily to when everything was an uphill struggle: "what do you mean I don't have to compile this as a flipping module? That's not freedom!" Being all too familiar.

Just my tuppence worth anyway.

Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

-----Original Message-----
From: Johan Nestaas <johannestaas@...il.com>
Sender: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 12:04:46 
To: Olivier<feuille@...ibox.fr>
Cc: <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default

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