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Message-ID: <4F3902B9.3090500@emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 07:31:53 -0500
From: William Warren <hescominsoon@...anuelcomputerconsulting.com>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Linksys Routers still Vulnerable to Wps
	vulnerability.

On 2/12/2012 5:42 PM, Sanguinarious Rose wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:23 PM,<farthvader@...h.ai>  wrote:
>> _________________________________________________________________________
>> "Use Tomato-USB OS on them."
>> _________________________________________________________________________
>>
>> Besides you void warranty...
>> list of DD-WRT Supported routers:
>>
>>   E1000        supported
>>   E1000 v2     supported
>>   E1000 v2.1   supported
>>   E1200 v1     ???
>>   E1200 v2     ???
>>   E1500        ???
>>   E1550        ???
>>   E2000        supported
>>   E2100L       supported
>>   E2500        not supported
>>   E3000        supported
>>   E3200        supported
>>   E4200 v1     not supported yet
>>   E4200 v2     not supported
>>   M10          ????
>>   M20          ????
>>   M20 v2       ????
>>   RE1000       ????
>>   WAG120N      not supported
>>   WAG160N      not supported
>>   WAG160N v2   not supported
>>   WAG310G      not supported
>>   WAG320N      not supported
>>   WAG54G2      not supported
>>   WAP610N      not supported
>>   WRT110       not supported
>>   WRT120N      not supported
>>   WRT160N v1   supported
>>   WRT160N v2   not supported
>>   WRT160N v3   supported
>>   WRT160NL     supported
>>   WRT310N v1   supported
>>   WRT310N v2   not supported yet
>>   WRT320N      supported
>>   WRT400N      supported
>>   WRT54G2 v1   supported
>>   WRT54G2 v1.3 supported
>>   WRT54G2 v1.5 not supported
>>   WRT54GS2 v1  supported
>>   WRT610N v1   supported
>>   WRT610N v2   supported
>>   X2000        not supported
>>   X2000 v2     not supported
>>   X3000        not supported.
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________________
>>
>> "Fixing?  Heh.
>>
>> Aside from rate limiting WPS, there isn't much of a fix, and you can't turn it off either."
>> _________________________________________________________________________
>>
>> What about removing WuPS entirely?
>>
>> WuPS is a total failure because:
>>
>> 1. Even if everything is fine 8 digits long is very weak because once you got the pin after 7 month - 2 years for example, you are completely pwned.
>>
> I can't see someone sitting outside my house for 7 months let alone 2
> years trying to get my PIN for my router.
>
>> 2. Pin number is fixed you can't change it to a longer number or maybe a string like "omgponnies"
>>
> A valid point and easy security improvement
>
>> 3. Setting up a WPA2 password manually it's a piece of cake (even with keypad only cell phones), if some people are lazy, you don't have to weakening the security of a strong protocol.
>>
> People are lazy by default and I see it honestly as their fault for
> not taking simple precautions or god forbid reading up a bit.
>
>> Farth Vader
>>
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> _______________________________________________
> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
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actually you only need to uges the first 4 then it's child's play.  
Tools that are out now guess this in seconds not years.  wps is a total 
failure by its very design.
http://twit.tv/show/security-now/337
Steve while he's often derided goes into this very well.  Many cisco's 
only stop advertising wps when it is "off" but wps actually still 
exists...which means they are still easily hackable.

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