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Message-ID: <CAD6s_Xsgkv437t+vbE31JA2CVx_uZ_eQKeezxBdaVEZtm-m6tA@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 14:31:19 +0200
From: Christian Sciberras <uuf6429@...il.com>
To: Laurelai <laurelai@...echan.org>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks
 Against Iran

What's the real problem Laurelai? If the US abruptly vanished, there will
be another country taking its place as the global player.

The thing is, I can't imagine another country doing a better job than the
US....not because the US is a walking saint, but because the rest of them
are no better.

Back to the subject of the US playing "dirty", who gives a shit? Security
experts of all shades have been doing it. Now that the US is taking your
place you're worried?






On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 5:01 AM, Laurelai <laurelai@...echan.org> wrote:

> On 6/8/12 9:56 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote:
> > Shit, Ill give the NSA a shell on any system... if it means achieving a
> > greater goal. Whether its wrong or not... let the bots decide who is the
> > better player as long as it brings the US into a primary position of
> > power.
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 11:22:32PM -0400, Laurelai wrote:
> >> On 6/6/12 2:23 PM, Peter Dawson wrote:
> >>> haha..da retrun of da "farewell dossier" !!
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 2:21 PM, coderman <coderman@...il.com
> >>> <mailto:coderman@...il.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>     On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 11:16 AM, coderman <coderman@...il.com
> >>>     <mailto:coderman@...il.com>> wrote:
> >>>     > ... uncle sam has been up in yer SCADA for
> >>>     > two decades.
> >>>
> >>>     three decades; too early for maths!
> >>>
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> >> Guys can we focus on the fact that the US Government is en mass
> >> accessing computer systems without due process, and trying to prosecute
> >> the people who made this known to the public.
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> Here we have a real life example of someone who is a part of the problem.
>
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