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Message-ID: <CAH8yC8nWS530qOm7FZaGK3z6HdO-sqxzLgod5gyQFGg1Z=L+OA@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 14:39:56 -0500
From: Jeffrey Walton <noloader@...il.com>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Student expelled from Montreal college after
 finding vulnerability that compromised security of 250, 000

On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 2:22 PM,  <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 19:59:53 +0100, Stefan Weimar said:
>
>> > 1) The kid, as part of his major, signed an ethics document.
>
>> A better solution would have been to not do the steps 1 and 2 but make
>> an NDA ("Ok, we know and you know but that's enough by now.") instead.
>> I mean, some kind of responsible disclosure.
>>
>> By proposing this "ethics document" it was the college being
>> unprofessional and not the kid.
>
> I think you misunderstand - the ethics document was signed *when he
> applied as a student".  If you think that's "unprofessional", you
> might want to consider that doctors, lawyers, and other professions
> have ethics standards as well.  As does anybody who has a CISSP:
That has not stopped lawyers and judges from perverting the legal
system in the US. Judge James Ware FTW!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Ware_(judge).

> https://www.isc2.org/ethics/default.aspx
TLDR;

Just kidding. Its actually quite short. I wonder of the college gave
him a contract, and called it a code of ethics.

> I'd say anybody who persisted in doing something after they promised
> not to would be running afoul of the "necessary public trust and confidence"
> clause of the CISSP code of ethics?
Well, there could be a lot of wiggle room. How much of it is subjective?

Is it like Christianity, where the 10 Commandments are taken as 10 Suggestions?

Jeff

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