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Message-ID: <163323.1373748551@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 16:49:11 -0400
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
To: Moshe Israel <moshe.israel@...ee.co.il>
Cc: "full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk" <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Abusing Windows 7 Recovery Process

On Sat, 13 Jul 2013 22:13:38 +0300, Moshe Israel said:
> All secured/regulated systems as required by most certifications/standards/best practices.

You're new in the industry, aren't you? :)

The point you're missing is that the vast majority of computers aren't covered
by said certifications and standards.  And most of the certifications are
merely a money grab by the auditors - the last numbers I found, something like
98% of breaches of systems that were covered by PCI were of systems that at
the time of the breach were PCI-compliant.  In  other words, being PCI compliant
didn't actually slow the attackers down one bit.

You social engineer your way into the 5th office building you pass, pick a
random PC on the 4th floor - I'll bet you that PC is probably *not* running
sufficient monitoring to detect an intruder rebooting it and messing with
the system.

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