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Message-ID: <13fda373b25.275b.8638d110b878e192e265aab66f50a68b@daloo.de>
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 00:47:01 +0200
From: Alex <fd@...oo.de>
To: <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu>, Moshe Israel <moshe.israel@...ee.co.il>
Cc: "full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk" <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Abusing Windows 7 Recovery Process

You didn't tell us how you cracked the full disc encryption. (There are 
ways around controls, but that is why we have multiple security layers.)



Am 13. Juli 2013 22:49:11 schrieb Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu:
> On Sat, 13 Jul 2013 22:13:38 +0300, Moshe Israel said:
> > All secured/regulated systems as required by most 
> certifications/standards/best practices.
>
> You're new in the industry, aren't you? :)
>
> The point you're missing is that the vast majority of computers aren't covered
> by said certifications and standards.  And most of the certifications are
> merely a money grab by the auditors - the last numbers I found, something like
> 98% of breaches of systems that were covered by PCI were of systems that at
> the time of the breach were PCI-compliant.  In  other words, being PCI 
> compliant
> didn't actually slow the attackers down one bit.
>
> You social engineer your way into the 5th office building you pass, pick a
> random PC on the 4th floor - I'll bet you that PC is probably *not* running
> sufficient monitoring to detect an intruder rebooting it and messing with
> the system.


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