full-disclosure - Re: Fwd: [cryptography] Paypal phish using EV certificate

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Message-ID: <CAPMrQTRzb2ari1jRyEpLF513z-5uhcp70EOEpeU-aib2Z_VmHg@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 14:22:26 +0300
From: Julius Kivimäki <julius.kivimaki@...il.com>
To: noloader@...il.com
Cc: Full Disclosure List <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Fwd: [cryptography] Paypal phish using EV
	certificate

All of the domains involved just happen to be registered on markmonitor by
PayPal. Really doubt this has anything to do with phishing.

2013/8/13 Jeffrey Walton <noloader@...il.com>

> It looks like Paypal has suffered a break-in and phishing attempts are
> being made on its users.
>
> Time to sell you stock (or buy it short) for the immediate future.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jeffrey Walton <noloader@...il.com>
> Date: Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 5:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [cryptography] Paypal phish using EV certificate
> To: Peter Gutmann <pgut001@...auckland.ac.nz>
> Cc: cryptography@...dombit.net
>
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 5:10 AM, Peter Gutmann
> <pgut001@...auckland.ac.nz> wrote:
> > I recently got a another of the standard phishing emails for Paypal,
> directing
> > me to https://email-edg.paypal.com, which redirects to
> > https://view.paypal-communication.com, which has a PayPal EV
> certificate from
> > Verisign.  According to this post
> > http://www.onelogin.com/a-paypal-phishing-attack/ it may or may not be a
> > phishing attack (no-one's really sure), and this post
> > http://www.linuxevolution.net/?p=12 says it is a phishing attack and
> the site
> > will be shut down by Paypal... back in May 2011.
> >
> > Can anyone explain this?  It's either a really clever phish (or the CAs
> are
> > following their historically lax levels of checking), or Paypal has
> joined the
> > ranks of US banks in training their users to become phishing victims.
> If that's true, I think the more interesting fact is: it appears
> email-edg.paypal.com is controlled by the attacker. Why else would
> Paypal redirect from a host in their domain to a host not in their
> domain controlled by the adversary? (Its a bit different than standard
> phishing training where both hosts/domains are controlled by Paypal).
>
> Has Paypal fess'ed up to any break-ins or  breaches?
>
> Jeff
>
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