full-disclosure - Re: [FD] Peeling the onion: Almost everyone involved in developing Tor was (or is) funded by the US government

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Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 09:40:03 +1000
From: "Ivan .Heca" <ivanhec@...il.com>
To: Stephen Crane <culda.rinon@...il.com>
Cc: fulldisclosure@...lists.org
Subject: Re: [FD] Peeling the onion: Almost everyone involved in developing
 Tor was (or is) funded by the US government | PandoDaily

>Tor was originally sponsored by the US Naval Research Lab.

That would be a logical assumption if you read the article and associated
references

> Does this automatically mean it's backdoored then?

is it? I think what the author was alluding to is their trying. Perry
thinks they can

Extremely well funded adversaries that are able to observe large portions
of the Internet can probably break aspects of Tor and may be able to
deanonymize users. This is why the core tor program currently has a version
number of 0.2.x and comes with a warning that it is not to be used for
“strong anonymity”. (Though I personally don’t believe any adversary can
reliably deanonymize *all* tor users . . . but attacks on anonymity are
subtle and cumulative in nature).
On 18/07/2014 9:27 AM, "Stephen Crane" <culda.rinon@...il.com> wrote:

> Tor was originally sponsored by the US Naval Research Lab. Does this
> automatically mean it's backdoored then? Could someone insert a backdoor
> into open-source software? Yes. Funding sources do little to change this.
> Now, who is controlling exit nodes is a different story, but that's another
> can of worms.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Ivan .Heca <ivanhec@...il.com> wrote:
>
>> Funding doubled, so engineering some back doors?
>>
>> In 2012, Tor nearly doubled its budget, taking in $2.2 million from
>> Pentagon and intel-connected grants: $876,099 came from the DoD, $353,000
>> from the State Department, $387,800 from IBB.
>>
>> That same year, Tor lined up an unknown amount funding from the
>> Broadcasting Board of Governors to finance fast exit nodes.
>>
>> http://pando.com/2014/07/16/tor-spooks/
>>
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