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Message-ID: <4C5C0CE2.7030009@vlnb.net>
Date:	Fri, 06 Aug 2010 17:23:46 +0400
From:	Vladislav Bolkhovitin <vst@...b.net>
To:	Ted Ts'o <tytso@....edu>
CC:	linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Crash after umount'ing a disconnected disk (Re: extfs reliability)

Ted Ts'o, on 08/06/2010 01:17 AM wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 11:29:59PM +0400, Vladislav Bolkhovitin wrote:
>>> Have you had a chance to check out whether this patch solves the
>>> problem you were complaining with respect to yanking out the last
>>> iSCSI or FC link to a hard drive, and then umounting the disk
>>> afterwards?
>>
>> Looks like it works. I was able to reach that branch (see AAA in the
>> attached log) and it was handled well.
>
> OK, great!
>
>> I've also got other (see the attached log file):
>>
>> 1. A bunch of detected hung tasks with call traces.
>>
>
> Is this unique to ext4?  It looks like a problem where we're either
> (a) not getting an I/O error from the block device in time before we
> get the hung task timeout (which might be the right thing, if the link
> eventually comes back --- what I've seen is there's a no clear
> consensus how long the last FC or iSCSI link should be done before we
> give up on an I/O operation), or (b) for some reason we're not
> noticing the I/O error and waiting forever.  I believe (a) is more
> likely here, but it's possible it's (b).  Do you eventually get file
> system I/O errors that abort the journal transaction?  You should...

Yes, as you can see in the previously attached log.

>> 2. "JBD: recovery failed" I reported before.
>
> I've searched my mail archives, and I'm not sure what you're talking
> about here.  Maybe this was in an e-mail that you sent that perhaps
> got lost?

It's next to the message on which you originally replied. It was about 
ext3, but this time I saw it with ext4.

Thanks,
Vlad
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