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Date:	Wed, 2 Sep 2015 00:30:39 -0300
From:	Albino B Neto <bino@...eup.net>
To:	Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@...il.com>
Cc:	Raymond Jennings <shentino@...il.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org" <linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Ext3 removal, quota & udf fixes

2015-08-31 23:53 GMT-03:00 Theodore Ts'o <tytso@....edu>:
> Yes, you can go back to ext3-only.  In fact, we do *not* automatically
> upgrade the file system to use ext4-specific features.
>
>> So it's not just a "you can use ext4 instead" issue. Can you do that
>> *without* then forcing an upgrade forever on that partition? I'm not
>> sure the ext4 people are really even willing to guarantee that kind of
>> backwards compatibility.
>
> Actually, we do guarantee this.  It's considered poor form to
> automatically change the superblock to add new file system features in
> a way that would break the ability for the user to roll back to an
> older kernel.  This isn't just for ext3->ext4, but for new ext4
> features such as metadata checksumming.  The user has to explicitly
> enable the feature using "tune2fs -O new_feature /dev/sdXX".

Yeah!

2015-09-01 16:39 GMT-03:00 Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@...il.com>:
> NO, it is not logical.  A vast majority of Android smartphones in the wild
> use ext2, as do a very significant portion of embedded systems that don't
> have room for the few hundred kilobytes of extra code that the ext4 driver
> has in comparison to ext2.

Ext2 portion embedded and Ext3 many machines.

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Albino B Neto
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"Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom!" faw
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