linux-ext4 - Re: [LSFMMBPF TOPIC] Killing LSFMMBPF

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Message-ID: <20200306170417.GX23230@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
Date:   Fri, 6 Mar 2020 17:04:17 +0000
From:   Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>
To:     Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>
Cc:     Josef Bacik <josef@...icpanda.com>,
        lsf-pc <lsf-pc@...ts.linuxfoundation.org>,
        Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
        linux-mm@...ck.org, linux-xfs@...r.kernel.org,
        Btrfs BTRFS <linux-btrfs@...r.kernel.org>, bpf@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org, linux-block@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [LSFMMBPF TOPIC] Killing LSFMMBPF

On Fri, Mar 06, 2020 at 08:05:48AM -0800, Matthew Wilcox wrote:

> > 4) Presentations.  90% of the conference is 1-2 people standing at the front
> > of the room, talking to a room of 20-100 people, with only a few people in
> > the audience who cares.  We do our best to curate the presentations so we're
> > not wasting peoples time, but in the end I don't care what David Howells is
> > doing with mount, I trust him to do the right thing and he really just needs
> > to trap Viro in a room to work it out, he doesn't need all of us.
> 
> ... and allow the other 3-5 people who're interested or affected the
> opportunity to sit in.  Like a mailing list, but higher bandwidth.

Latency can be more unpleasant, actually - you try to discuss something between
3 people, when one is in .uk, another - in .us (east coast) and the third one -
in ,au (also east coast).  Timezone deltas - 5 hours and 8 hours, in opposite
directions...  Incidentally, that was about mount, with me and David being
two of participants; I somewhat hoped to get that sorted out at LSF, but Ian
won't be there anyway.  OTOH, that's just an 8 hours delta...