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Message-ID: <1583516279.3653.71.camel@HansenPartnership.com>
Date:   Fri, 06 Mar 2020 09:37:59 -0800
From:   James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senPartnership.com>
To:     Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>,
        Josef Bacik <josef@...icpanda.com>
Cc:     lsf-pc <lsf-pc@...ts.linuxfoundation.org>,
        Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
        linux-mm@...ck.org, linux-xfs@...r.kernel.org,
        Btrfs BTRFS <linux-btrfs@...r.kernel.org>, bpf@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org, linux-block@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [LSFMMBPF TOPIC] Killing LSFMMBPF

On Fri, 2020-03-06 at 08:05 -0800, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
[...]
> 2. Charge attendees $300 for a 3-day conference.  This seems to be
> the going rate (eg BSDCan, PGCon).  This allows the conference to be
> self-funding without sponsors, and any sponsorship can go towards
> evening events, food, travel bursaries, etc.

Can I just inject a dose of reality here:  The most costly thing is
Venue rental (which comes with a F&B minimum) and the continuous Tea
and Coffee.  Last year for Plumbers, the venue cost us $37k and the
breaks $132k (including a lunch buffet, which was a requirement of the
venue rental).  Given we had 500 attendees, that, alone is $340 per
head already.  Now we could cut out the continuous tea and coffee ...
and the espresso machines you all raved about last year cost us about
$7 per shot.  But it's not just this, it's also AV (microphones and
projectors) and recording, and fast internet access.  That all came to
about $100k last year (or an extra $200 per head).  So you can see,
running at the level Plumbers does you're already looking at $540 a
head, which, co-incidentally is close to our attendee fee.  To get to
$300 per head, you lot will have to give up something in addition to
the espresso machines, what is it to be?

James

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