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Message-ID: <CAOQ4uxjmTBi9B=0mMKf6i8usLJ2GrAp88RhxFcQcGFK1LjQ_Lw@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2023 07:06:58 +0300 From: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@...il.com> To: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@...nel.org> Cc: lsf-pc@...ts.linux-foundation.org, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, xfs <linux-xfs@...r.kernel.org>, linux-ext4 <linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org>, linux-btrfs <linux-btrfs@...r.kernel.org>, "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@...cle.com> Subject: Re: [Lsf-pc] [LSF TOPIC] online repair of filesystems: what next? On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 5:11 AM Darrick J. Wong <djwong@...nel.org> wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 10:46:32AM +0300, Amir Goldstein wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 7:46 AM Darrick J. Wong <djwong@...nel.org> wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 03:18:05PM +0300, Amir Goldstein wrote: > > > > On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 10:49 PM Darrick J. Wong <djwong@...nel.org> wrote: > > ... > > > > Darrick, > > > > > > > > Quick question. > > > > You indicated that you would like to discuss the topics: > > > > Atomic file contents exchange > > > > Atomic directio writes > > > > > > This one ^^^^^^^^ topic should still get its own session, ideally with > > > Martin Petersen and John Garry running it. A few cloud vendors' > > > software defined storage stacks can support multi-lba atomic writes, and > > > some database software could take advantage of that to reduce nested WAL > > > overhead. > > > > > > > CC Martin. > > If you want to lead this session, please schedule it. > > > > > > Are those intended to be in a separate session from online fsck? > > > > Both in the same session? > > > > > > > > I know you posted patches for FIEXCHANGE_RANGE [1], > > > > but they were hiding inside a huge DELUGE and people > > > > were on New Years holidays, so nobody commented. > > > > > > After 3 years of sparse review comments, I decided to withdraw > > > FIEXCHANGE_RANGE from general consideration after realizing that very > > > few filesystems actually have the infrastructure to support atomic file > > > contents exchange, hence there's little to be gained from undertaking > > > fsdevel bikeshedding. > > > > > > > Perhaps you should consider posting an uptodate > > > > topic suggestion to let people have an opportunity to > > > > start a discussion before LSFMM. > > > > > > TBH, most of my fs complaints these days are managerial problems (Are we > > > spending too much time on LTS? How on earth do we prioritize projects > > > with all these drive by bots?? Why can't we support large engineering > > > efforts better???) than technical. > > > > I penciled one session for "FS stable backporting (and other LTS woes)". > > I made it a cross FS/IO session so we can have this session in the big room > > and you are welcome to pull this discussion to any direction you want. > > Ok, thank you. Hopefully we can get all the folks who do backports into > this one. That might be a big ask for Chandan, depending on when you > schedule it. > > (Unless it's schedule for 7pm :P) > Oh thanks for reminding me! I moved it to Wed 9am, so it is more convenient for Chandan. Thanks, Amir.
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