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Date:	Tue, 25 Jul 2006 14:13:01 -0500
From:	Russell Cattelan <cattelan@...barn.com>
To:	Hans Reiser <reiser@...esys.com>
Cc:	Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org>, Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	ReiserFS List <reiserfs-list@...esys.com>
Subject: Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org
	regarding reiser4 inclusion

On Sun, 2006-07-23 at 01:20 -0600, Hans Reiser wrote:
> Jeff, I think that a large part of what is going on is that any patch
> that can be read in 15 minutes gets reviewed immediately, and any patch
> that is worked on for 5 years and then takes a week to read gets
> neglected.  This is true even if line for line the 1 week to read patch
> is more valuable.    What is more is that people know this is
> irrational, but aren't able to cure it in themselves.  Even I have a
> problem of paying too much attention to endless 5 minute emails when I
> know I should instead, say, read the compression plugin from beginning
> to end.
> 
> There is nothing about small patches that makes them better code.  There
> is no reason we should favor them, if the developers are willing to work
> on something for 5 years to escape a local optimum, that is often the
> RIGHT thing to do.
> 
> It is importand that we embrace our diversity, and be happy for the
> strength it gives us.  Some of us are good at small patches that evolve,
> and some are good at escaping local optimums.  We all have value, both
> trees and grass have their place in the world.
> 
Which is summed up quite well by:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_of_the_bikeshed

It seem to be a well know tendency for people to want to
be involved in some way, thus keeping to much of the development
cycle internal tends to generate friction.


-Russell Cattelan
cattelan@....org

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