linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 3/7] SLIM main patch

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Message-ID: <20060824191611.GB1625@sergelap.austin.ibm.com>
Date:	Thu, 24 Aug 2006 14:16:11 -0500
From:	"Serge E. Hallyn" <sergeh@...ibm.com>
To:	David Safford <safford@...son.ibm.com>
Cc:	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Serge E Hallyn <sergeh@...ibm.com>, kjhall@...ibm.com,
	Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@...ck.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	LSM ML <linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org>,
	David Safford <safford@...ibm.com>,
	Mimi Zohar <zohar@...ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/7] SLIM main patch

Quoting David Safford (safford@...son.ibm.com):
> On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 18:05 +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> > It is a matter of the timing and the device. You need to do revocation
> > at the device level because your security state change must occur after
> > the devices have all been dealt with. This is why I said you need the
> > core of revoke() to do this.
> 
> In a typical system, most applications are started at the correct level,
> and we don't have to demote/promote them. In those cases where demotion
> or promotion are needed, only a small number actually already have
> access that needs to be revoked. Of those, most involve shmem, which
> I believe we are revoking safely, as we don't have the same problems
> with drivers and incomplete I/O. In the remaining cases, where we really
> can't revoke safely, we could simply not allow the requested access, and
> not demote/promote the process.
> 
> I think this would give us a useful balance of allowing "safe" demotion
> or promotions, while not requiring general revocation. Does this sound
> like a reasonable approach?

It sounds like you're saying "This should not be a problem unless the
system is being abused/exploited so let's not worry about it."

Assuming that wasn't your intent :), could you please rephrase?

thanks,
-serge


-
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/