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Message-ID: <451B5A59.9040806@garzik.org>
Date:	Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:15:05 -0400
From:	Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org>
To:	Chase Venters <chase.venters@...entec.com>
CC:	Sergey Panov <sipan@...an.org>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...l.org>,
	Patrick McFarland <diablod3@...il.com>,
	Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@...ux01.gwdg.de>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...eleye.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: GPLv3 Position Statement

Chase Venters wrote:
> I sympathize with Richard on his avoidance of "open-source". I don't 
> necessarily take the same view, but I understand that his big concern is that 
> the message he feels is important will be lost. I also think some of the 
> things I've heard from the "open-source" side are too extreme - take, for 
> instance, ESR's idea that we don't need the GPL license at all. That sounds 
> like a nice world he's living in, but I'm not sure we're all on the same 
> planet yet.

ESR is a nutcase too.


> The final GPLv3 may indeed go too far for many open-source supporters. But 
> then again, it is the FSF's license, and it should at least not surprise 
> anyone if they are more concerned with the ideals of the license rather than 
> current market realities. Market conditions change; ideals generally don't.

As long as you can admit that FSF is divorced from reality...

	Jeff


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