linux-kernel - Re: GPLv3 Position Statement

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Message-Id: <1159421223.13562.75.camel@sipan.sipan.org>
Date:	Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:27:03 -0400
From:	Sergey Panov <sipan@...an.org>
To:	Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org>
Cc:	Chase Venters <chase.venters@...entec.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...l.org>,
	Patrick McFarland <diablod3@...il.com>,
	Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@...ux01.gwdg.de>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...eleye.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: GPLv3 Position Statement

On Thu, 2006-09-28 at 01:15 -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Chase Venters wrote:
> > I sympathize with Richard on his avoidance of "open-source". I don't 
> > necessarily take the same view, but I understand that his big concern is that 
> > the message he feels is important will be lost. I also think some of the 
> > things I've heard from the "open-source" side are too extreme - take, for 
> > instance, ESR's idea that we don't need the GPL license at all. That sounds 
> > like a nice world he's living in, but I'm not sure we're all on the same 
> > planet yet.
> 
> ESR is a nutcase too.

 How did you manage to figure it out?

> > The final GPLv3 may indeed go too far for many open-source supporters. But 
> > then again, it is the FSF's license, and it should at least not surprise 
> > anyone if they are more concerned with the ideals of the license rather than 
> > current market realities. Market conditions change; ideals generally don't.
> 
> As long as you can admit that FSF is divorced from reality...

??? Ideals are always divorced from reality. But some shape it, and some
are irrelevant.

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