linux-kernel - Re: Spam, bogofilter, etc

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Message-ID: <4521557C.3060500@mbligh.org>
Date:	Mon, 02 Oct 2006 11:07:56 -0700
From:	Martin Bligh <mbligh@...igh.org>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...l.org>
Cc:	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Lee Revell <rlrevell@...-job.com>,
	Matti Aarnio <matti.aarnio@...iler.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Spam, bogofilter, etc

>>MX checking is as broken or more broken than bayes.
> 
> I have to say, OSDL has been doing MX checking, and it's effective as 
> hell. Most importantly, when it _does_ break, it's not because some 
> "content" is considered inappropriate, it's because some ISP does 
> something technically wrong.
> 
> OSDL also refused to talk to open mail relays etc. I got into something of 
> a (fairly civilized) shouting match with John Gilmore over it, who used to 
> send out email from a "fake open mail relay" on princuple (maybe he still 
> does). He claimed I was censoring his free speech rights when I didn't 
> read his emails, but I just told him that I was expressing my right to not 
> listen to people who are so stupid that they can't configure their email 
> servers.

That was actually pretty broken. Sending Andrew email stopped working
for ages. IIRC because I was sending email from my home address through
the IBM work server. It's not a trouble-free solution, and otherwise
fairly reasonable things stop working. I forget what the OSDL admins
did in the end ... I think put in a specific exception for an IP range.

M.
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