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Message-ID: <20061031094938.GF14055@kernel.dk>
Date:	Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:49:38 +0100
From:	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@...cle.com>
To:	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@...oo.com.au>
Cc:	Eric Dumazet <dada1@...mosbay.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@...l.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] splice : two smp_mb() can be omitted

On Tue, Oct 31 2006, Nick Piggin wrote:
> Eric Dumazet wrote:
> >This patch deletes two calls to smp_mb() that were done after 
> >mutex_unlock() that contains an implicit memory barrier.
> 
> Uh, there is nothing that says mutex_unlock or any unlock
> functions contain an implicit smp_mb(). What is given is that the
> lock and unlock obey aquire and release memory ordering,
> respectively.
> 
> a = x;
> xxx_unlock
> b = y;
> 
> In this situation, the load of y can be executed before that of x.
> And some architectures will even do so (i386 can, because the
> unlock is an unprefixed store; ia64 can, because it uses a release
> barrier in the unlock).
> 
> Whenever you rely on orderings of things *outside* locks (even
> partially outside), you do need to be very careful about barriers
> and can't rely on locks to do the right thing for you.

Good point, we should not make any assumptions on the way the
architecture implements the mutexes.

-- 
Jens Axboe

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