linux-kernel - Re: ANNOUNCE: SFLC helps developers assess ar5k (enabling free Atheros HAL)

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Date:	Wed, 15 Nov 2006 20:26:29 +0100
From:	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>
To:	"John W. Linville" <linville@...driver.com>
Cc:	Michael Buesch <mb@...sch.de>, madwifi-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net,
	lwn@....net, mcgrof@...il.com, david.kimdon@...icescape.com,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: SFLC helps developers assess ar5k (enabling free
	Atheros HAL)

On Wed, 2006-11-15 at 14:21 -0500, John W. Linville wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 07:42:14PM +0100, Michael Buesch wrote:
> 
> > Now that it seems to be ok to use these openbsd sources, should I port
> > them to my driver framework?
> > I looked over the ar5k code and, well, I don't like it. ;)
> > I don't really like having a HAL. I'd rather prefer a "real" driver
> > without that HAL obfuscation.
> 
> I don't think anyone likes the HAL-based architecture.  I don't think
> we will accept a HAL-based driver into the upstream kernel.
> 
> The point is that the ar5k is now safe to be used as a reference and
> source of information (and code, as appropriate) without copyright FUD.
> Distilling that information into a proper Linux driver is work that
> remains to be done.

there have been several efforts on this before; is it worth revitalizing
one of them?

Also I suspect that if you merge a provisional driver early, lots of
folks will switch to it and start beating on it and fixing the style etc
issues...


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