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Message-Id: <1163966016.5744.8.camel@Homer.simpson.net>
Date:	Sun, 19 Nov 2006 20:53:36 +0100
From:	Mike Galbraith <efault@....de>
To:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
Cc:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...l.org>,
	Chuck Ebbert <76306.1226@...puserve.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...l.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] PM: suspend/resume debugging should depend on 
	SOFTWARE_SUSPEND

On Sun, 2006-11-19 at 19:58 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Sunday, 19 November 2006 18:52, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > On Sun, 2006-11-19 at 09:33 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Sun, 19 Nov 2006, Chuck Ebbert wrote:
> > > >
> > > > When doing 'make oldconfig' we should ask about suspend/resume
> > > > debug features when SOFTWARE_SUSPEND is not enabled.
> > > 
> > > That's wrong.
> > > 
> > > I never use SOFTWARE_SUSPEND, and I think the whole concept is totally 
> > > broken.
> > > 
> > > Sane people use suspend-to-ram, and that's when you need the suspend and 
> > > resume debugging.
> > 
> > Here I am wishing I had the _opportunity_ to be sane.  With my ATI X850
> > AGP card, I have no choices except swsusp or reboot.
> 
> Have you tried s2ram (http://en.opensuse.org/S2ram)?

Cool.  That shows potential.  On an 2.6.19-rc6-rt4 kernel, it looked
like it _might_ have eventually gotten past boot.  At one line of kernel
output every ~10 seconds though, I gave up.  Virgin 2.6.19-rc6 went
panic with a black screen... have options, will tinker.

(i _was_ quite content with swsusp, but now i want it all;)

	Thanks,

	-Mike

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