Date:	Tue, 13 Feb 2007 23:24:56 +0100 (CET)
From:	"Indan Zupancic" <indan@....nu>
To:	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@...e.hu>
Cc:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"Arjan van de Ven" <arjan@...radead.org>,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@...radead.org>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@....com.au>,
	"Alan Cox" <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	"Ulrich Drepper" <drepper@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 02/11] syslets: add syslet.h include file,
      user API/ABI definitions

On Tue, February 13, 2007 22:43, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Indan Zupancic <indan@....nu> wrote:
>>   A
>>   |
>>   B<--.
>>   |   |
>>   C---'
>>
>> What will be the previous atom of B here? It can be either A or C, but
>> their return values can be different and incompatible, so what flag
>> should B set?
>
> previous here is the previously executed atom, which is always a
> specific atom. Think of atoms as 'instructions', and these condition
> flags as the 'CPU flags' like 'zero' 'carry' 'sign', etc. Syslets can be
> thought of as streams of simplified instructions.

In the diagram above the previously executed atom, when handling atom B,
can be either atom A or atom C. So B doesn't know what kind of return value
to expect, because it depends on the previous atom's kind of syscall, and
not on B's return type. So I think you would want to move those return value
flags one atom earlier, in this case to A and C. So each atom will have a
flag telling what to to depending on its own return value.

>> > +/*
>> > + * Special modifier to 'stop' handling: instead of stopping the
>> > + * execution of the syslet, the linearly next syslet is executed.
>> > + * (Normal execution flows along atom->next, and execution stops
>> > + *  if atom->next is NULL or a stop condition becomes true.)
>> > + *
>> > + * This is what allows true branches of execution within syslets.
>> > + */
>> > +#define SYSLET_SKIP_TO_NEXT_ON_STOP		0x00000080
>> > +
>>
>> Might rename this to SYSLET_SKIP_NEXT_ON_STOP too then.
>
> but that's not what it does. It really 'skips to the next one on a stop
> event'. I.e. if you have three consecutive atoms (consecutive in linear
> memory):
>
> 	atom1 returns 0
> 	atom2 has SYSLET_STOP_ON_ZERO|SYSLET_SKIP_NEXT_ON_STOP set
> 	atom3
>
> then after atom1 returns 0, the SYSLET_STOP_ON_ZERO condition is
> recognized as a 'stop' event - but due to the SYSLET_SKIP_NEXT_ON_STOP
> flag execution does not stop (i.e. we do not return to user-space or
> complete the syslet), but we continue execution at atom3.
>
> this flag basically avoids having to add an atom->else pointer and keeps
> the data structure more compressed. Two-way branches are sufficiently
> rare, so i wanted to avoid the atom->else pointer.

The flags are smart, they're just at the wrong place I think.

In your example, if atom3 has a 'next' pointing to atom2, atom2 wouldn't
know which return value it's checking: The one of atom1, or the one of
atom3? You're spreading syscall specific knowledge over multiple atoms
while that isn't necessary.

What I propose:

	atom1 returns 0, has SYSLET_STOP_ON_ZERO|SYSLET_SKIP_NEXT_ON_STOP set
	atom2
	atom3

(You've already used my SYSLET_SKIP_NEXT_ON_STOP instead of
SYSLET_SKIP_TO_NEXT_ON_STOP. ;-)

Perhaps it's even more clear when splitting that SYSLET_STOP_* into a
SYSLET_STOP flag, and specific SYSLET_IF_* flags. Either that, or go
all the way and introduce seperate SYSLET_SKIP_NEXT_ON_*.

	atom1 returns 0, has SYSLET_SKIP_NEXT|SYSLET_IF_ZERO set
	atom2
	atom3

Greetings,

Indan


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