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Message-ID: <45FAD0F7.5090506@grupopie.com>
Date:	Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:16:39 +0000
From:	Paulo Marques <pmarques@...popie.com>
To:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
CC:	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@...ru>, akpm@...l.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, devel@...nvz.org, tglx@...utronix.de,
	viro@...iv.linux.org.uk, rusty@...tcorp.com.au
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND 2/2] Fix some kallsyms_lookup() vs rmmod races

Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Paulo Marques <pmarques@...popie.com> wrote:
> 
>>> looking at the problem from another angle: wouldnt this be something 
>>> that would benefit from freeze_processes()/unfreeze_processes(), and 
>>> hence no locking would be required?
>> I also considered this, but it seemed a little too "blunt" to stop 
>> everything (including completely unrelated processes and kernel 
>> threads) just to remove a module.
> 
> 'just to remove a module' is very, very rare, on the timescale of most 
> kernel ops. Almost no distro does it. Furthermore, because we want to do 
> CPU-hotplug that way, we really want to make 
> freeze_processes()/unfreeze_processes() 'instantaneous' to the human - 
> and it is that already. (if it isnt in some case we can make it so)

Ok. I started to look at this approach and realized that module.c 
already does this:

> ....
> static int __unlink_module(void *_mod)
> {
> 	struct module *mod = _mod;
> 	list_del(&mod->list);
> 	return 0;
> }
> 
> /* Free a module, remove from lists, etc (must hold module mutex). */
> static void free_module(struct module *mod)
> {
> 	/* Delete from various lists */
> 	stop_machine_run(__unlink_module, mod, NR_CPUS);
> ....

However stop_machine_run doesn't seem like the right thing to do, 
because users of the "modules" list don't seem to do anything to prevent 
preemption. Am I missing something?

Does freeze_processes() / unfreeze_processes() solve this by only 
freezing processes that have voluntarily scheduled (opposed to just 
being preempted)?

-- 
Paulo Marques - www.grupopie.com

"The Computer made me do it."
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