linux-kernel - Re: [ck] Re: [ANNOUNCE] RSDL completely fair starvation free interactive cpu scheduler

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Message-id: <200703181150.40059.jos@mijnkamer.nl>
Date:	Sun, 18 Mar 2007 11:50:36 +0100
From:	jos poortvliet <jos@...nkamer.nl>
To:	ck@....kolivas.org
Cc:	Con Kolivas <kernel@...ivas.org>, Al Boldi <a1426z@...ab.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ck] Re: [ANNOUNCE] RSDL completely fair starvation free
 interactive cpu scheduler

Op Sunday 18 March 2007, schreef Con Kolivas:
> On Monday 12 March 2007 22:26, Al Boldi wrote:
> > Con Kolivas wrote:
> > > On Monday 12 March 2007 15:42, Al Boldi wrote:
> > > > Con Kolivas wrote:
> > > > > On Monday 12 March 2007 08:52, Con Kolivas wrote:
> > > > > > And thank you! I think I know what's going on now. I think each
> > > > > > rotation is followed by another rotation before the higher
> > > > > > priority task is getting a look in in schedule() to even get
> > > > > > quota and add it to the runqueue quota. I'll try a simple change
> > > > > > to see if that helps. Patch coming up shortly.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you try the following patch and see if it helps. There's also
> > > > > one minor preemption logic fix in there that I'm planning on
> > > > > including. Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > Applied on top of v0.28 mainline, and there is no difference.
> > > >
> > > > What's it look like on your machine?
> > >
> > > The higher priority one always get 6-7ms whereas the lower priority one
> > > runs 6-7ms and then one larger perfectly bound expiration amount.
> > > Basically exactly as I'd expect. The higher priority task gets
> > > precisely RR_INTERVAL maximum latency whereas the lower priority task
> > > gets RR_INTERVAL min and full expiration (according to the virtual
> > > deadline) as a maximum. That's exactly how I intend it to work. Yes I
> > > realise that the max latency ends up being longer intermittently on the
> > > niced task but that's -in my opinion- perfectly fine as a compromise to
> > > ensure the nice 0 one always gets low latency.
> >
> > I think, it should be possible to spread this max expiration latency
> > across the rotation, should it not?
>
> There is a way that I toyed with of creating maps of slots to use for each
> different priority, but it broke the O(1) nature of the virtual deadline
> management. Minimising algorithmic complexity seemed more important to
> maintain than getting slightly better latency spreads for niced tasks. It
> also appeared to be less cache friendly in design. I could certainly try
> and implement it but how much importance are we to place on latency of
> niced tasks? Are you aware of any usage scenario where latency sensitive
> tasks are ever significantly niced in the real world?

I do always nice down heavy games, it makes them more smooth...

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