linux-kernel - Re: [patch 4/6] mm: merge populate and nopage into fault (fixes nonlinear)

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Message-Id: <200703192144.28969.blaisorblade@yahoo.it>
Date:	Mon, 19 Mar 2007 21:44:28 +0100
From:	Blaisorblade <blaisorblade@...oo.it>
To:	Nick Piggin <npiggin@...e.de>
Cc:	Bill Irwin <bill.irwin@...cle.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Memory Management <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 4/6] mm: merge populate and nopage into fault (fixes nonlinear)

On Sunday 18 March 2007 03:50, Nick Piggin wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 17, 2007 at 01:17:00PM +0100, Blaisorblade wrote:
> > On Tuesday 13 March 2007 02:19, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > > On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 12:01:13AM +0100, Blaisorblade wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday 07 March 2007 11:02, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > > > > > Yeah, tmpfs/shm segs are what I was thinking about. If UML can
> > > > > > live with that as well, then I think it might be a good option.
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh, hmm.... if you can truncate these things then you still need to
> > > > > force unmap so you still need i_mmap_nonlinear.
> > > >
> > > > Well, we don't need truncate(), but MADV_REMOVE for memory hotunplug,
> > > > which is way similar I guess.
> > > >
> > > > About the restriction to tmpfs, I have just discovered
> > > > '[PATCH] mm: tracking shared dirty pages' (commit
> > > > d08b3851da41d0ee60851f2c75b118e1f7a5fc89), which already partially
> > > > conflicts with remap_file_pages for file-based mmaps (and that's
> > > > fully fine, for now).
> > > >
> > > > Even if UML does not need it, till now if there is a VMA protection
> > > > and a page hasn't been remapped with remap_file_pages, the VMA
> > > > protection is used (just because it makes sense).
> > > >
> > > > However, it is only used when the PTE is first created - we can never
> > > > change protections on a VMA  - so it vma_wants_writenotify() is true
> > > > (on all file-based and on no shmfs based mapping, right?), and we
> > > > write-protect the VMA, it will always be write-protected.
> > >
> > > Yes, I believe that is the case, however I wonder if that is going to
> > > be a problem for you to distinguish between write faults for clean
> > > writable ptes, and write faults for readonly ptes?
> >
> > I wouldn't be able to distinguish them, but am I going to get write
> > faults for clean ptes when vma_wants_writenotify() is false (as seems to
> > be for tmpfs)? I guess not.
> >
> > For tmpfs pages, clean writable PTEs are mapped as writable so they won't
> > give any problem, since vma_wants_writenotify() is false for tmpfs.
> > Correct?
>
> Yes, that should be the case. So would this mean that nonlinear protections
> don't work on regular files?

They still work in most cases (including for UML), but if the initial mmap() 
specified PROT_WRITE, that is ignored, for pages which are not remapped via 
remap_file_pages(). UML uses PROT_NONE for the initial mmap, so that's no 
problem.

> I guess that's OK if Oracle and UML both use 
> tmpfs/shm?

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