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Date:	Sun, 8 Apr 2007 21:44:26 -0400
From:	Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu>
To:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
Cc:	Jörn Engel <joern@...ybastard.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	Ulrich Drepper <drepper@...il.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Neil Brown <neilb@...e.de>
Subject: Re: If not readdir() then what?

On Sun, Apr 08, 2007 at 12:28:32PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> Theodore Tso wrote:
> >It doesn't state explicitly that you can use the telldir cookie()
> >after closing the directory stream using closedir() and then reopening
> >it using opendir(), but given that it states that results are
> >undefined after a rewinddir() --- which is much less violent than a
> >closedir()/opendir(), I would definitely argue that an application
> >programmer would be very ill-advised to rely on this working.
> >
> >(Of course, I'd argue that an application programmer shouldn't use
> >telldir/seekdir at all.....)
> >
> >Ulrich, is it too late to insert a clarification that the telldir()
> >cookie isn't guaranteed to be valid after closedir() *or* rewinddir()?
> 
> More fundamentally, the telldir cookie should never be valid when 
> applied to a different DIR * (even one that refers to the same directory.)

Well, Joern thought that rm -rf might relying on the telldir cookie
being valid in precisely that circumstance.  If that is true, I'd
argue that this is a BUG in GNU coreutils that should be fixed...

						- Ted

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