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Message-Id: <200704272324.43359.rjw@sisk.pl>
Date:	Fri, 27 Apr 2007 23:24:42 +0200
From:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
To:	Pekka J Enberg <penberg@...helsinki.fi>
Cc:	Nigel Cunningham <nigel@...el.suspend2.net>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Back to the future.

On Friday, 27 April 2007 08:18, Pekka J Enberg wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Apr 2007, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> > COW is a possibility, but I understood (perhaps wrongly) that Linus was
> > thinking of a single syscall or such like to prepare the snapshot. If
> > you're going to start doing things like this, won't that mean you'd then
> > have to update/redo the snapshot or somehow nullify the effect of
> > anything the programs does so that doing it again after the snapshot is
> > restored doesn't cause problems?
> 
> No. The snapshot is just that. A snapshot in time. From kernel point of 
> view, it doesn't matter one bit what when you did it or if the state has 
> changed before you resume. It's up to userspace to make sure the user 
> doesn't do real work while the snapshot is being written to disk and 
> machine is shut down.

Why do you think that keeping the user space frozen after 'snapshot' is a bad
idea?  I think that solves many of the problems you're discussing.

Greetings,
Rafael

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