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Message-ID: <4633F62A.2050801@kernel.org>
Date:	Sat, 28 Apr 2007 18:34:34 -0700
From:	Josh Triplett <josh@...nel.org>
To:	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@...f.ucam.org>
CC:	David Lang <david.lang@...italinsight.com>,
	Bill Davidsen <davidsen@....com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: suspend2 merge (was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: CFS and suspend2:
 hang in atomic copy)

Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 28, 2007 at 12:15:50PM -0700, David Lang wrote:
>> with dynaticks now in the kernel it may even be possible to have the idle 
>> process decide that the next event is far enough away that it should 
>> suspend-to-ram until that point.
> 
> This would be ideal (and it's broadly what the OLPC guys are aiming for, 
> I think), but on most platforms you're looking at at least a second or 
> so to resume. As far as I know, we're still looking at ~60 ticks a 
> second at best for an average desktop, so that's not going to be a win.

As long as the system has a clear idea of how long it will take to resume, it
can schedule a wakeup for a reasonable amount of time before that.  Ideally, a
completely unused system might not need a tick for several seconds.  However,
I agree that it doesn't make sense to add such functionality to the kernel
until someone can show a system that can actually wait that long between
ticks.

- Josh Triplett
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