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Date:	Thu, 03 May 2007 13:22:48 +0200
From:	"Miquel van Smoorenburg" <mikevs@...all.net>
To:	adilger@...sterfs.com
Cc:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] fallocate system call

In article <20070503103425.GE6220@...atzie.adilger.int> you write:
>On May 02, 2007  18:23 +0530, Amit K. Arora wrote:
>> On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 10:25:59PM -0700, Chris Wedgwood wrote:
>> > On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 10:47:02AM +1000, David Chinner wrote:
>> > 
>> > > For FA_ALLOCATE, it's supposed to change the file size if we
>> > > allocate past EOF, right?
>> > 
>> > I would argue no.  Use truncate for that.
>> 
>> The patch I posted for ext4 *does* change the filesize after
>> preallocation, if required (i.e. when preallocation is after EOF).
>> I may have to change that, if we decide on not doing this.
>
>I think I'd agree - it may be useful to allow preallocation beyond EOF
>for some kinds of applications (e.g. PVR preallocating live TV in 10
>minute segments or something, but not knowing in advance how long the
>show will actually be recorded or the final encoded size).

I have an application (diablo dreader) where the header-info database
basically consists of ~40.000 files, one for each group (it's more
complicated that that, but never mind that now).

If you grow those files randomly by a few hundred bytes every update,
the filesystem gets hopelessly fragmented.

I'm using XFS with preallocation turned on, and biosize=18 (which
makes it preallocate in blocks of 256KB), and a homebrew patch that
leaves the preallocated space on disk preallocated even if the
file is closed .. and it helps enormously.

Mike.
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