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Message-ID: <20070508202515.GA23056@lazybastard.org>
Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 22:25:20 +0200
From: Jörn Engel <joern@...ybastard.org>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@...l.org>, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
Dave Kleikamp <shaggy@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
David Chinner <dgc@....com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] LogFS proper
Before I forget this again: thanks for the review! It really is
appreciated.
On Tue, 8 May 2007 20:00:41 +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 18:32 +0200, Jörn Engel wrote:
> > > Please sort includes alphabetically and seperate the
> > > #include <linux/mtd/mtd.h> from the #include <linux/...> ones
> >
> > Sort: will do.
> > Seperation: Any particular reason for that?
>
> Easier to see the different <include/xxx> categories
I'm not convinced, but neither do I care enough to argue.
> > > > +#define packed __attribute__((__packed__))
> > >
> > > Please use the __attribute__((__packed__)) on your structs instead of
> > > creating some extra "needs lookup" magic.
> >
> > Actually I would prefer to understand what that attribute actually does.
>
> It ensures that gcc does not align things accourding to its own idea of
> optimized access.
>
> > All structure members should be properly aligned, so having this
> > attribute is pure paranoia. The definition is just there to make my
> > eyes tear less.
> >
> > Would anything potentially break if I just ripped that out?
>
> It's gcc :)
Sounds like I'm not the only paranoid around. Oh well!
> > > Please comment the structure with kernel doc comments and avoid the tail
> > > comments.
> >
> > I'd like to hear your rationale.
>
> Kernel doc comments as:
>
> /**
> * struct hrtimer - the basic hrtimer structure
> * @node: red black tree node for time ordered insertion
> * @expires: the absolute expiry time in the hrtimers internal
> * representation. The time is related to the clock on
> * which the timer is based.
>
> give you a nice overview with enough space for good explanations and can
> be converted to kernel doc as well.
That makes sense, at least for anything that can be described as an
interfaces. As for the kernel-only header - not sure yet.
> > > enum please
> >
> > I don't care much one way or another. Do enums have a significant
> > advantage?
>
> yes, type checking
>
> > > > +
> > > > +struct logfs_segment_header {
> > > > + be32 crc; /* checksum */
> > > > + be16 len; /* length of object, header not included */
> > > > + u8 type; /* node type */
> > > > + u8 level; /* GC level */
> > > > + be32 segno; /* segment number */
> > > > + be32 ec; /* erase count */
> > > > + be64 gec; /* global erase count (write time) */
> > > > +}packed;
> > > > +
> > > > +enum {
> > > > + COMPR_NONE = 0,
> > > > + COMPR_ZLIB = 1,
> > > > +};
> > >
> > > Please name the enums and use the same enum for the according fields and
> > > the function arguments.
> >
> > Does sparse check on that? That would be quite useful and stop my
> > ambivalence.
>
> also the compiler complains
Reason enough to use it for the simple cases.
> > Not sure. Those constants are actually in groups of 16, so they are a
> > weird mixture of bitfields and enums. There is code roughly along these
> > lines:
> >
> > switch (i >> 4) {
> > case 0:
> > switch (i & 0xf) {
> > case JE_COMMIT:
> > case JE_ABORT:
> > ...
> > case 1:
> > ...
> >
> > I'll have to check whether enums support this.
>
> Hmm, ok. But this needs some comment then
Sure.
> > I can see the point for an inline function. But lowercase would change
> > a style that appears to be common in Linux filesystems.
>
> Well, we have uppercase MACROs and lower case function names.
>
> > Will you send the janitorial patches for existing code?
>
> :)
Then I will leave the casing for some energetic janitor as well. :)
> > Istr enums having severe problems for anything larger than int. LogFS
> > inodes are 64bit. Hmm. And how do enums behave wrt. cpu_to_beXX and
> > sparse?
>
> Hmm, good question.
And these will remain macros as well. Without type checking there
doesn't seem to be a compelling reason left.
> > > > + u64 s_free_bytes; /* number of free bytes */
> > >
> > >
> > > > +#define journal_for_each(__i) for (__i=0; __i<LOGFS_JOURNAL_SEGS; __i++)
> > >
> > > __i = 0; __i < LOGFS_JOURNAL_SEGS;
> >
> > Will that make the code look better or just slavishly follow indentation
> > guidelines? Adding spaces where you suggested weakens the grouping of
> > the three for(;;) parameters, imo.
> >
> (__i = 0; __i < LOGFS_JOURNAL_SEGS; __i++)
>
> is way simpler to parse than
>
> (__i=0; __i<LOGFS_JOURNAL_SEGS; __i++)
If that statement was meant to be generic, it failed for me. Now, I
happen to be used to one thing and you are used to another, so a large
part of that may only be habit. Still, I have have thought about what
I'm doing and believe to have a slightly more objective reason (better
grouping).
> > > +void logfs_crash_dump(struct super_block *sb);
> > > > +#define LOGFS_BUG(sb) do { \
> > > > + struct super_block *__sb = sb; \
> > >
> > > Why do we need a local variable here ?
> >
> > Trying to add type safety. It cannot be an inline function if without
> > making the file/line information useless.
>
> #define LOGFS_BUG(sb) logfs_bug(sb, __FUNCTION__, __LINE__)
>
> Also the BUG itself will give you enough clue where it happened, so
> having the function/line info is not really necessary
If that were true, why are function and line included in BUG() then?
And after looking up BUG(), why is the loglevel missing from every
printk in it? Looks like a "naked" printk is far from uncommon. Plus,
in my testing, something magically added a default (<4>) loglevel to
every printk.
This leaves me a bit puzzled and wondering whether I should change each
and every printk in my code. After killing the bogus ones, of course.
> > > > +static inline u8 logfs_type(struct inode *inode)
> > > > +{
> > > > + return (inode->i_mode >> 12) & 15;
> > >
> > > What's 12 and 15 ? Constants perhaps ?
> >
> > There should be a generic function doing just the same. At least this
> > is better than the open-coded variants elsewhere:
> >
> > fs/jffs2/dir.c: type = (old_dentry->d_inode->i_mode & S_IFMT) >> 12;
> > fs/jffs2/dir.c: type = (old_dentry->d_inode->i_mode & S_IFMT) >> 12;
> > fs/libfs.c: return (inode->i_mode >> 12) & 15;
> > fs/nfs/dir.c: return (inode->i_mode >> 12) & 15;
> > fs/proc/base.c: type = inode->i_mode >> 12;
> >
> > Maybe the libfs version could get moved to a header somewhere.
>
> Yes please
Does anyone have a header suggestion? fs.h is the obvious one, although
it looks like the last thing it needs is even more content.
> > > > +int logfs_memcpy(void *in, void *out, size_t inlen, size_t outlen);
> > > > +int logfs_compress(void *in, void *out, size_t inlen, size_t outlen);
> > > > +int logfs_compress_vec(struct kvec *vec, int count, void *out, size_t outlen);
> > > > +int logfs_uncompress(void *in, void *out, size_t inlen, size_t outlen);
> > > > +int logfs_uncompress_vec(void *in, size_t inlen, struct kvec *vec, int count);
> > >
> > > are those global ? If yes, please add extern, else remove
> >
> > What purpose does "extern" have? To my understanding it makes zero
> > difference. About half the headers use it, the other half doesn't.
>
> and yours uses it in one place and not in the other.
Hey, I _do_ use it. But only for logfs_*_ops. So clearly I did it once
and then copied one from another.
> extern is an empty macro, but it makes it clear that this is a global
> function declaration
Anyone living in any doubt that a function declaration in a header is
not meant to be global has my deepest sympathy. I'll kill the existing
"extern"s.
> > > > +static inline u64 dev_ofs(struct super_block *sb, u32 segno, u32 ofs)
> > > > +{
> > > > + struct logfs_super *super = LOGFS_SUPER(sb);
> > >
> > > Seperate variables and code by an empty line please
> >
> > In general: sure. But for 1-2 line functions the empty lines seem to
> > hurt more than they help.
>
> No, it's about pattern recognition. Consistent patterns allow faster
> parsing.
You have a point there.
> > As much as I agree with the kernel coding style, I have never liked to
> > slavishly follow any written doctrine. The overall goal should be easy
> > to read. If "easy to read" would match the wording 100%, someone should
> > adjust the Lindent parameters and run the whole kernel through.
> >
> > > > + LOGFS_BUG_ON(err, sb);
> > >
> > > Please open code this instead of nesting mtdread into device_read and
> > > therefor avoid the error handling pathes in those places where
> > > device_read is used.
> >
> > Open code the LOGFS_BUG_ON()? What purpose would that serve?
>
> No, open code device_read and add the error path at the place where
> device_read is used and put a bug in the error path for now.
But that is pointless. In particular the "for now" part is pointless.
"For now" is exactly what I have already. And the less I waste my time
with cosmetics the sooner I can spend time to fix it "for good".
> > > > +static s64 dir_seek_data(struct inode *inode, s64 pos)
> > > > +{
> > > > + s64 new_pos = logfs_seek_data(inode, pos);
> > >
> > > new line please
> > >
> > > > + return max((s64)pos, new_pos - 1);
> > >
> > > max_t please
> >
> > That would remove all type checking, wouldn't it?
>
> max_t enforces type checking
#define max_t(type,x,y) \
({ type __x = (x); type __y = (y); __x > __y ? __x: __y; })
Both x and y get implicitly cast to type. Whereas max has the much
stronger
(void) (&_x == &_y); \
Even with a single cast, at least one parameter receives strong type
checking, which in C exists only for pointers but not for any integer
types.
> > And looking at it again, the code has changed and the cast become
> > useless. Let's kill it.
Remains true, of course.
> > > > +static int __logfs_dir_walk(struct inode *dir, struct dentry *dentry,
> > > > + dir_callback handler, struct logfs_disk_dentry *dd, loff_t *pos)
> > > > +{
> > > > + struct qstr *name = dentry ? &dentry->d_name : NULL;
> > > > + int ret;
> > > > +
> > > > + for (; ; (*pos)++) {
> > > > + ret = read_dir(dir, dd, *pos);
> > > > + if (ret == -EOF)
> > > > + return 0;
> > > > + if (ret == -ENODATA) {/* deleted dentry */
> > >
> > > Please move the comment away. It makes parsing hard
> >
> > ENOPARSE
> >
> > Do you want an extra space or tab?
>
> No, please remove the tail comment after the {
You have to come up with a better reason than your personal preference.
In particular when your suggestion is to remove useful documentation.
> > What is the rationale here?
>
> Pattern recognition
What was the context again? Oh, yes, comments. Hmm.
/* fairly short one-line comment; is just barely within 80 columns */
/*
* slighly longer two-line comment; would be just barely over 80
* columns
*/
I think it is unfortunate that the second comment is just 6 characters
longer and yet has to fill four lines instead of one. Oh well,
consistency wins.
> > > > + if (dest) /* symlink */
> > > > + ret = logfs_inode_write(inode, dest, destlen, 0);
> > > > + else /* creat/mkdir/mknod */
> > > > + ret = __logfs_write_inode(inode);
> > >
> > >
> > > Please remove this confusing tail comments
> >
> > ?!?
> > Imo they explain what is going on in either of those cases. Do you
> > consider that to be self-explanatory?
>
> if you think you need comments, then please use new lines, i.e:
>
> if (dest) {
> /* symlink */
> ret = logfs_inode_write(inode, dest, destlen, 0);
> } else {
> /* creat/mkdir/mknod */
> ret = __logfs_write_inode(inode);
> }
That _does_ look better. Consider me convinced.
> > > > +static int logfs_delete_dd(struct inode *dir, struct logfs_disk_dentry *dd,
> > > > + loff_t pos)
> > > > +{
> > > > + int err;
> > > > +
> > > > + err = read_dir(dir, dd, pos);
> > > > + if (err == -EOF) /* don't expose internal errnos */
> > > > + err = -EIO;
> > >
> > > Interesting. Why is EOF morphed to EIO ?
> >
> > Because deleting something beyond EOF is indeed an error. Although in
> > two cases, this should be a BUG() instead, if anything at all.
> >
> > Journal replay is special. Garbage and/or malicious data on the medium
> > cause this error. The journal CRCs should protect us against garbage,
> > which leaves only the prepared filesystem image to worry about.
> >
> > I guess I'll just BUG in any case.
>
> At least provide a comment for the ignorami.
Can do.
Just like for any other filesystem, fuzzing an image will uncover many
bugs. More than in other filesystems simply because LogFS is younger.
The only exceptions are JFFS2 and ZFS - and even those only if the
attacker^Wresearcher didn't bother to recalculate checksums after
fuzzing.
Hardly material for 8 o'clock news.
> > > > +#include "logfs.h"
> > > > +
> > > > +
> > > > +static int logfs_prepare_write(struct file *file, struct page *page,
> > > > + unsigned start, unsigned end)
> > > > +{
> > > > + if (PageUptodate(page))
> > > > + return 0;
> > > > +
> > > > + if ((start == 0) && (end == PAGE_CACHE_SIZE))
> > > > + return 0;
> > >
> > > Self explaining logic ?
> >
> > Boilerplate code that every filesystem uses.
>
> I know, I have seen it elsewhere. It still does not make much sense.
Then it should be generically implemented and commented somewhere once,
so that other filesystems can just use the functionality.
I haven't closely followed Nick Piggin's work, but it could be entirely
possible that some of his patches make this obsolete. Might be a bad
time for such a cleanup.
> > > > +#if 0
> > >
> > > Can you please remove this ?
> >
> > Nope. That code will get used in the future.
>
> So why don't you add it when it you start to use it ?
Why do you want to see this code gone? Unlike many of the #if 0 Adrian
added, this code has a maintainer that cares about it. Surely there
must be better candidates for removal.
> > > Interestingly enough this unused function is better commented than
> > > anything else in this patch.
> >
> > With the exception of dir.c. In both cases I was documenting the
> > algorithm used, which is far from obvious. Most other things are fairly
> > straightforward for people used to existing filesystems.
>
> Hmm. Comments are of general use and it's way easier to understand code
> when it has comments to functions and tricks used in the code. You don't
> write code for people used to existing filesystems. You write code which
> is understandable and allows debugging without twisting the brain for
> non filesystem wizzards who use it and trap into the occasional problem
Then please ask specific questions. My abilities to guess what others
consider obvious are quite limited. Doubly so because I am more
familiar with many basic (to LogFS) concepts than any potential reader.
So familiar in fact, I usually don't even notice.
> > > > + sh = (void*)&h;
> > >
> > > Please use proper type casting !
> >
> > How would that improve the code? (void*) clearly states that "I don't
> > care what the base type it, just cast this thing to the new pointer
> > type." (struct logfs_segment_header*) would state the same but be less
> > concise.
>
> Hell no. It documents that you actually want to do this IMHO.
That implies I would also do this without actually wanting to. Or maybe
not me but some other kernel hackers. Is that realistic? Have such
bugs occurred?
> > > > + /* This is a blatant copy of alloc_inode code. We'd need alloc_inode
> > > > + * to be nonstatic, alas. */
> > > > + {
> > > > + static const struct address_space_operations empty_aops;
> > > > + struct address_space * const mapping = &inode->i_data;
> > >
> > > Please remove the brackets and move the variables to the top of the
> > > fucntion
> >
> > Erm? Did you read the comment? I have copied the code from
> > alloc_inode() without changes. That is bad enough as it is. If I were
> > to change the code format, chances of detecting changes in one function
> > not followed in the other would increase even more.
>
> I read the comment, but it did not make any sense versus the brackets.
>
> > I'm sure this particular gem can use some discussion, as long as it's
> > not limited to formatting issues.
>
> well, both.
Then let us discuss the more important issue of potentially exporting
alloc_inode() first, please.
> > > > + level = i & 0xf;
> > >
> > > what is 0xf ?
> > >
> > > > + area = super->s_area[level];
> > > > + switch (i & ~0xf) {
> > > > + case JEG_BASE:
> > > > + switch (i) {
> > >
> > > Represents I an enum or a bitfield or both ?
> >
> > Both. High nibble groups the journal entries. High nibble 0 are the
> > normal journal entries. High nibble 1 are the summaries for all levels.
> >
> > "Levels" is something I should document, seeing that most people haven't
> > watched my LCA presentation.
>
> I know roughly how it works. It just is not obvious and really needs
> some comments.
Ack.
> > > > +static void journal_get_free_segment(struct logfs_area *area)
> > > > +{
> > > > + struct logfs_super *super = LOGFS_SUPER(area->a_sb);
> > > > + int i;
> > > > +
> > > > + journal_for_each(i) {
> > > > + if (area->a_segno != super->s_journal_seg[i])
> > > > + continue;
> > > > +empty_seg:
> > > > + i++;
> > > > + if (i == LOGFS_JOURNAL_SEGS)
> > > > + i = 0;
> > > > + if (!super->s_journal_seg[i])
> > > > + goto empty_seg;
> > >
> > >
> > > Does this loop for ever or is there a guranteed exit ?
> > > Please use a do while loop instead of the goto
> >
> > There is a guaranteed exit. mkfs can specify up to four segments (read
> > erase blocks) for the journal to live in. Two are the required minimum.
> > In order to specify just two segments, the array will be initialized
> > like {1, 2, 0, 0}.
> >
> > This code shall find the current segment from that array, then pick the
> > next one and skip over any entries that are zero.
>
> I thought that, but it needs a comment as well
Ack.
> > Send me a testcase. :)
>
> Use nand error injection :)
I'll inject errors in ramtd then. If nothing else, at least I'm
familiar with that beast.
> > As above, I prefer explicitly stating "this has never happened, I have
> > no clue what should be done" over some half-assed "I hope this works,
> > even though noone ever tested it".
> >
> > Both are lame, one just happens to be slightly less wicked and a lot
> > more honest.
>
> Well, at least it would be good to return the problem back to the place,
> where it actually would do damage and BUG there, so it is more obvious
> where you need to work on error handling. Bugs in the middle of nowhere
> are not really helpful
Helpful to whom? If you volunteered to do this testing, I will gladly
change the code to your liking. If, as expected, I will do this work
then I actually like it as it is "for now". :)
> > > > + ret = mtdwrite(sb, ofs, sb->s_blocksize, block);
> > > > + if (ret)
> > > > + return ret;
> > > > + return 0;
> > >
> > > Interesting way to reyl on compiler smartness
> >
> > Que?
>
> if (ret)
> return ret;
> return 0;
>
> might be optimized by a smart compiler to
>
> return ret;
>
> but you should do it yourself, as gcc is not always smart
Ah, yes. One day I should go through all my patches, interdiff them and
see how many lines I actually wrote. There has been a huge amount of
churn and this is not the first case where I missed an obvious cleanup
after some other code change.
> > Any comments to used code you would like to see? Your pattern appears
> > to be "remove comment". :)
>
> No, "move comment away from the tail" :)
Yup. I'm converted.
> Comments to functions and tricky non obvious code would be really
> appreciated.
Sometimes I get this feeling that none of my code is obvious. Maybe I
should add a file giving a rough design overview and what part of the
design each file is supposed to deal with.
> > > > + if (*ppos >= size)
> > > > + return 0;
> > > > + if (count > size - *ppos)
> > > > + count = size - *ppos;
> > > > +
> > > > + BUG_ON(logfs_index(*ppos) != logfs_index(*ppos + count - 1));
> > > > +
> > > > + block_data = kzalloc(LOGFS_BLOCKSIZE, GFP_KERNEL);
> > > > + if (!block_data)
> > > > + goto fail;
> > > > +
> > > > + err = logfs_read_block(inode, logfs_index(*ppos), block_data,
> > > > + read_zero);
> > > > + if (err)
> > > > + goto fail;
> > > > +
> > > > + memcpy(buf, block_data + (*ppos % LOGFS_BLOCKSIZE), count);
> > > > + *ppos += count;
> > > > + kfree(block_data);
> > > > + return count;
> > >
> > > err = count; and fall trough ?
> >
> > Then I would change *ppos.
>
> err ?
Lack of coffee (or sleep, since I don't drink coffee). Now I see what
you mean.
> > > > + ret = ret==n ? 0 : -EIO;
> > >
> > > return ret == n ? ..... perhaps ?
> >
> > Again I consider the lack of spaces to give better grouping. It is
> > similar to brackets. In general they help, but then there is Lisp...
>
> dickhead :)
:)
> > > > +int mtderase(struct super_block *sb, loff_t ofs, size_t len)
> > > > +{
> > > > + struct mtd_info *mtd = LOGFS_SUPER(sb)->s_mtd;
> > > > + struct inode *inode = LOGFS_SUPER(sb)->s_dev_inode;
> > > > + struct erase_info ei;
> > > > + int ret;
> > > > +
> > > > + BUG_ON(len % mtd->erasesize);
> > > > +
> > > > + truncate_inode_pages_range(&inode->i_data, ofs, ofs+len-1);
> > > > + if (mtd->block_isbad(mtd, ofs))
> > > > + return -EIO;
> > >
> > > this actually leads to a double check of block_isbad for blocks which
> > > are not bad.
> >
> > Does it? Where is the second check happening?
>
> in mtd->erase()
Does not seem to be documented either. Not sure if I can trust every
driver on it. But I should be able to trust my own code, which is
tracking bad blocks as well. Will kill.
> > No. This one will print a little statistic about segment usage.
> > Something like:
> >
> > 0 0 0 0 20000 12345 01234 ...
> >
> > It is useful as-is for fsck purposes, except that the lines wrap since I
> > count bytes instead of blocks now. "blocks" is a strange concept once
> > they get compressed.
>
> Still something like:
>
> LOGFS 0 0 0 0 20000 12345 01234 ...
> LOGFS 0 0 0 0 20000 12345 01234 ...
>
> makes it easier to find in the logs
Finding it in the logs when looking for it is definitely not a problem.
What could be a problem is that people not looking for this could find
it in their logs. So the fsck as a whole should be hidden behind a big
sign forbidding civilians and children to enter. Or just moved to
userspace.
> > Not anymore, this can go. But since we are on the subject, what is the
> > difference between yield() and cond_resched()? Those two functions
> > could also use slightly better comments.
>
> cond_resched() calls schedule, when the need_resched flag of the task is
> set. yield() goes through schedule always and should not be used in the
> kernel.
Thanks.
> > > >
> > Humm. So far those functions are unused. And I'm starting to doubt
> > their usefulness. The commented-out code should be pure paranoia, but
> > that hardly matters now, does it.
>
> In a review it matters, as it raises questions, doesn't it.
Raising questions definitely matters. What doesn't matter (anymore) are
those comments, as the functions are on my black list.
> > > > +static void ostore_get_free_segment(struct logfs_area *area)
> > > > +{
> > > > + struct logfs_super *super = LOGFS_SUPER(area->a_sb);
> > > > + struct logfs_segment *seg;
> > > > +
> > > > + BUG_ON(list_empty(&super->s_free_list));
> > > > +
> > > > + seg = list_entry(super->s_free_list.prev, struct logfs_segment, list);
> > > > + list_del(&seg->list);
> > > > + area->a_segno = seg->segno;
> > > > + kfree(seg);
> > > > + super->s_free_count -= 1;
> > >
> > > get_free_segment actually kfree's a segment ? Please use a less
> > > misleading function name
> >
> > It actually gets a free segment. It also kfree's an object that happens
> > to be called logfs_segment. Both names make sense on their own. The
> > combination... can be confusing.
> >
> > I'm not exactly sure what to do here.
>
> At least add a comment !
Will do.
> > > > +++ linux-2.6.21logfs/fs/logfs/memtree.c 2007-05-07 13:32:12.000000000 +0200
> > > > @@ -0,0 +1,199 @@
> > > > +/* In-memory B+Tree. */
> > >
> > > license and a little bit more description
> >
> > For sure. This could potentially move to lib/
>
> yup
>
> > > > + if (fill-1 < BTREE_NODES/2) {
> > > > + /* XXX */
> > >
> > > YYYY perhaps ?
> >
> > Or maybe even so actual code?
>
> Might be even better.
>
> > As it is, this is a somewhat generic btree implementation using lazy
> > removal (or else there must be code here). I hacked it up just for
> > learning purposes, but later found it to be useful. And while I haven't
> > done any tests, it should significantly beat rbtrees performance-wise.
>
> Put this explanation into the comment with a FIXME. Is far better than
> "XXX" :)
At least you ask this year, while I still have a faint memory of what I
did. :)
Will do.
Jörn
--
When in doubt, punt. When somebody actually complains, go back and fix it...
The 90% solution is a good thing.
-- Rob Landley
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