linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 3/5] lockstat: core infrastructure

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Message-ID: <20070601185123.GA5129@elte.hu>
Date:	Fri, 1 Jun 2007 20:51:23 +0200
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
To:	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>
Cc:	Daniel Walker <dwalker@...sta.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Jason Baron <jbaron@...hat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] lockstat: core infrastructure


* Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl> wrote:

> On Fri, 2007-06-01 at 09:11 -0700, Daniel Walker wrote:
> > On Fri, 2007-06-01 at 17:52 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> 
> > > The whole issue is that you don't have any control over what clocksource
> > > you'll end up with. If it so happens that pmtimer gets selected your
> > > whole box will crawl if its used liberaly, like the patch under
> > > discussion does.
> > 
> > You can have control over it, which I think the whole point of this
> > discussion ..
> 
> No you don't, clocksource will gladly discard the TSC when its not 
> found stable enough (the majority of the systems today). While it 
> would be good enough for sched_clock().

yeah, precisely. [ There is another thing as well: most embedded 
architectures do not even implement LOCKDEP_SUPPORT today, so it wouldnt 
be possible to enable lockstat on them anyway. So this whole topic is 
ridiculous to begin with. How about fixing some real, non-imaginery bugs 
instead? ;-) ]

	Ingo
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