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Date:	Thu, 7 Jun 2007 19:04:12 -0400
From:	Daniel Hazelton <dhazelton@...er.net>
To:	"Jesper Juhl" <jesper.juhl@...il.com>
Cc:	"Krzysztof Halasa" <khc@...waw.pl>,
	"Alan Cox" <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>, akpm@...l.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, jeff@...zik.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] intel-rng: Undo mess made by an 80 column extremist

On Thursday 07 June 2007 18:46:25 Jesper Juhl wrote:
> On 08/06/07, Daniel Hazelton <dhazelton@...er.net> wrote:
> > On Thursday 07 June 2007 17:17:18 Krzysztof Halasa wrote:
> > > Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk> writes:
> > > > The intel-rng printed a nice well formatted message when the port was
> > > > disabled. Someone then came along and blindly trashed it by screwing
> > > > up a trim down to 80 columns.
> > >
> > > Perhaps we should drop that 80-column style and use some 120+?
> > > X or no X, almost all people now have more lines and columns on their
> > > displays than MDA 20 years ago.
> > >
> > > 132 to match text VGA perhaps?
> > > 80 can be left for the actual _output_, I mean number of chars printed
> > > by kernel code.
> >
> > Why? My consoles are *all* still 80x24 text mode. It's only if I decide
> > to monkey with the settings (and why fix what isn't broken?) or when I'm
> > in X that I get a bigger screen than that.
> >
> > I think the general consensus on the 80 character lines isn't for the
> > average home user, but for the people that have things like old Wyse
> > terminals and such hooked up.
>
> Hmm, perhaps my eyes are just not as good as other peoples, but my X
> runs at 1600x1200 and I have konsole in KDE configured so that when it
> is maximized it is very close to a 80x25 window (actually it is 82x31
> with a size 18 font).
> Nice and readable, if I make the font any smaller to fit more
> cols/rows then the text gets too small and my eyes hurt.
> Reading kernel code formatted for 80cols fits perfectly for me.

I know the feeling Jesper. There are times when I like to take my glasses off 
and set them to the side. When I do that I usually also kill X and work using 
nothing more than the console. The why is simple - my eyes are just that bad. 
If I stay in X and try to use it I wind up with a massive headache after only 
thirty minutes or so.

DRH

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