linux-kernel - Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

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Date:	Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:57:04 -0700 (PDT)
From:	david@...g.hm
To:	Alexandre Oliva <aoliva@...hat.com>
cc:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@....linux.org.uk>,
	Bernd Schmidt <bernds_cb1@...nline.de>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>,
	debian developer <debiandev@...il.com>,
	Tarkan Erimer <tarkan@...one.net.tr>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007, Alexandre Oliva wrote:

> Subject: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3
> 
> On Jun 19, 2007, david@...g.hm wrote:
>
>> if a company doesn't care about tivoizing then they won't do it, it
>> takes time and money to tivoize some product and it will cause
>> headaches for the company.
>
>> their reasons for wanting to tivoize a product may be faulty, but they
>> think that the reasons are valid or they wouldn't go to the effort.
>
> Absolutely right.  And we'll get to that.  Please just be patient.
>
> In fact, how much the company cares about tivoizing is completely
> irrelevant to that point.  I shouldn't even have included it, but I
> did because I thought it would be useful as a boundary condition.
>
> So just disregard that.
>
> Is there agreement that, comparing tivoized and non-tivoized hardware,
> we get'd more contributions if the hardware is not tivoized, because
> users can scratch their own itches, than we would for tivoized
> hardware?

if you also make the assumption that the company won't use propriatary 
software instead then I think you would get agreement. but the 
disagrement is over this exact assumption. you assume that these companies 
will use non-tivoized products if you make it hard to use the software 
covered by the GPL, most other people are saying that they disagree and 
the result would be fewer companies useing software covered by GPL 
instead.

David Lang
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