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Message-Id: <200707051242.00625.vapier@gentoo.org>
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 12:41:59 -0400
From: Mike Frysinger <vapier@...too.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>
Cc: Karel Zak <kzak@...hat.com>,
List util-linux-ng <util-linux-ng@...r.kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] util-linux-ng 2.13-rc1
On Wednesday 04 July 2007, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 12:11:56AM +0200, Karel Zak wrote:
> > mount(8) doesn't include filesystem detection code anymore. You
> > have to compile --with-fsprobe={blkid,volume_id}, and libblkid
> > (e2fsprogs) or libvolume_id (udev >= v110) is required.
>
> Sorry, but it's really annoying to pull in a filesystem-specific devel
> package for that. Having a library is fine, but please move the library
> into util-linux so it's always available without another dependency.
ugh, moving libraries which are already actively maintained by other core
projects into util-linux is so not a good idea (ignoring the fact that it'd
easily be a pita/waste for distro maintainers)
> That
> way xfsprogs could for example drop it's own detection library aswell.
i dont really think this is dependent on util-linux at all. nothing is
stopping xfsprogs from depending on udev or e2fsprogs now.
> > The package build system is now based on autotools. The build system
> > supports separate CFLAGS and LDFLAGS for suid programs (SUID_CFLAGS,
> > SUID_LDFLAGS). For more details see the README file
>
> And this is really dumb. autotools is a completely pain in the ass and
not really at all. hand written build systems are a constant source of pain
for distribution maintainers and people trying to cross-compile (and the one
that was in util-linux had many problems in both these areas).
> not useful at all for linux-only tools.
incorrect. linux changes over time as does the kernel/libc/architecture
api's. look at the old util-linux build system -- it had a crappy hand
written configure script to try and detect all these different issues.
-mike
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