linux-kernel - Re: [linux-pm] Re: [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM pathway

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Message-Id: <E1I6NAH-00008t-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>
Date:	Thu, 05 Jul 2007 10:58:17 +0200
From:	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@...redi.hu>
To:	oliver@...kum.org
CC:	miklos@...redi.hu, paulus@...ba.org, stern@...land.harvard.edu,
	johannes@...solutions.net, rjw@...k.pl,
	linux-pm@...ts.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	pavel@....cz, mjg59@...f.ucam.org, benh@...nel.crashing.org
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] Re: [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM pathway

> > And teach VFS to block suspension, while waiting on a mutex held by
> > another process performing a fuse operation.
> > 
> > I can already hear the beautiful praise from Al Viro at the sight of
> > that ;)
> 
> There is that.
> 
> OK, bite the bullet. Tasks involved in fuse are special. Give them a flag
> and teach the freezer to put them on ice only after all other task are
> frozen. In a way they are kernel, there's no use denying that.

And flag every other process, that the flagged process is
communicating with?  How are you proposing to do that?

Quoting Paul:

"1. The freezer cannot be guaranteed deadlock-free without constructing
   a dependency graph between tasks (both user and kernel), which is
   virtually impossible since the dependencies are not externally
   observable."

Miklos
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